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' IEMS CONFERENCE
GOVERNOR PARRIS BRYANT
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDh
AUGUST 31, 1961
HEWSMEN PARTICIPATING: LeMoyne Cash, FORT MYERS NEWS-PRESS, MIAMI
NEWS; Dick Dale. FLORIDA BROADCAST NEWS; Robert Delaney, THE ORLANDO
SENTINEL-STAR; James Gillespy, UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL; David
Gretsch. FREE [hix RADIO; Ovid Lewis. wars; Don Meiklejohn, JOHN
H. P£RPY PAPERS; Jerry Mock, FLORIDA TIMES UNION; Allen Morris,
CHACREB POLITICS; George Prentice, WTVT; Tam Raker, INSIDE POLITICS;
Georcez Thurston, moan BROADCAST ms; Martin waidrou, s'r. PESRSBURG
TIMES-IAhI HEPALD SERVICE; Paul Wills, ASSOCIATED PRESS.
GOVERNOR: I know we have been worrying a good deal about survival
and I certainly have profited by the survival course we have been
taking, but this weekend tLere is a question of survival entirely
separate from the nuclear danger: survival on the highways. I
appreciate what you all have done in spreading the word and urging a
showing of headlights as a reminder. Let's see if we can reduce
these twelve lives which the experts have predicted will be lost --
save hem. I will appreciate anything further that you can say in
promoting that effort.
V: have with us here today Captain Hey Landrum, Captain
Stanley Graham and Sergeant Major Mock, the latter two being as you
can see, members of the Marine Corps. Mr. Iandrum is Executive
Officer of the local Marine reserve unit and I think can explain
what they are aoout to undertake. Would you do that Mr. Landrum?
LANDRFM: The purpose of being here, contrary to what you might
think, is not to publicize the Harine Corps, although the arine
Corps will play a major part in it. If we are publicizing anything,
we want to publicize a measure that we are planning to undertake with
the approval and with the cooperation of the state government: to
try to stimulate or revitalize the patriotic observance of respecting
and honoring the American Flag as a symbol of our nation. What we
propose to do is to hold a brief ceremony each morning at eight
O'CIOCk, five days a week, the five working days, and again at five
O'clock in the afternoon, to raise the American Flag in front of the
Supreme Court building with full honors and to lower it with honors
appropriate to that occasion. 1we are doing this not as a Marine
Corps project but as a project of the local Marine Corps Reserve
Unit, the let Tank Company. The fact that we are doing this is more
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situation that would be a natural thing to do, to take every 20th
voter nni check them out. I say every 20th -- I don't know what
constititeo a sample, but whatever does.
DELANEY: Every third in Liberty, maybe.
ALDOH: Governor. I want to explore this a little bit more. There
was some talk yesterday, when I was down in Bristol, among the public
officials there that they were a little bit upset, because they
pointed out that in that county out-of-county voters held the balance
of power and elected the officials and yet did not know what the
local situation was at the time. And there was some suggestion that
Perhaps 1 person who claimed homestead exemption in one county should
not be allowed to vote in another.
GOVERNOR: I think there is a lot in that. I don't see how a man
can claim a homestead in one county and claim another county as his
home, tut this 12 not to say that everyone who votes back in the
county 7f his birth does so legittnately. But that is Just something
that will have to be decided in each case.
DELANEY: In there any legal barriers for claiming homestead
exemption in one county and maintaining voting registration in
another
GOVERNOR: I would think so. I would think the requirements of
residence for voring would preclude the assertion of homestead in
one county and residence in another county. New I don't think
there in any statutory conflict, but I think the two are basically
contradictory.
DELANEY: For instance, in your case you are now living in the
HansiOn. but if you were a cabinet officer and maintained your
voting registration elsewhere. would you think there would be a
prohibition against your claiming homestead exemption here?
GOVERNOR: There is no prohitition against it. It would be clearly
question of the definition of residence for one and residence for
the other.
CHRIS: Governor. is it even necessary to be a citizen of Florida
to claim homestead exemption? You can live in new York or Chicago.
GOVERNOR: I don't belieVe that is true, is it? You might be able
to live in New York or Chicago. but on the other hand, I recall now
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in 19h? we had a battle cvcr aliens claiming homestead. He tried
to pass 3 constitutional amendment denying the right of homestead
exemption to aliens and were unsuccessful. So undoubtedly you are
correct. You can even be. let's say a Cuban National and claim a
homestead in Tampa. As a matter of fact, that's done.
MORRIS: Is it not true that the situation sometimes becomes
confused because some county tax assessors require a registration
as evidence of citizenship, purely on a local basis?
GOVERNOR: I don't know that about it. But I readily concede that
it an alien can claim a homestead here. certainly a Georgian ought
to be able to.
DELANEY: What you are saying is that a man can live in another
state and claim homestead exemption in Florida?
GOVERNOR: And be a citizen of another nation, and claim homestead
exemption in Florida.
DELANEY: On a residence in which he does not live?
GOVERNOR: Oh, I didn't say that. You had better submit this one to
the Attorney General. (laughter)
HEIKLEJOKH: Govornor, at the Tuesday Cabinet meeting, the Cabinet
decided that it would be a good idea to have a four color cover on
the driver's handbook. They have been using a black and white one.
The coat based on about 560,000 would be a little more than $2,000
a year more. Is that in keeping with your economy in government idea?
GOVERNOR: I think so. It seemed to me that for my own use, and for
my family's use -- especially my grown daughters -- of these books,
that there is an added value amounting to half a cent a copy. as I
recall.
GILLESPY: Do you think that would help people to learn to drive
any better?
GOVERNOR: I think it would make the book more attractive and more
interesring to read and I think you would be more quickly inclined
to read the book.
MEIKLEJGHN: Don't you have to read it if you are going to get a
driver: license?
GOVERNOR: Yes, but you don't have to read it after you have a
driver's licence. I would hope that that has been done as I have done
it.
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WALDRON: Have you seen one of these black and white covered ones?
GOVEPHOR: I saw one the other day for the first time.
WALDRQ: I think it is sort of striking.
GOVERNOR: Well, you should run for Governor and then we would have
black and white ones all the time. (laughter)
WALDEON: I probably couldn't get elected. (laughter)
MEIKLFJCHH: Do you think that would be a good issue?
WALDRCN: Let me ask a philosophical question while we are here on
this -- not about economy tut about federal aid. Over in several
counties in this area the Florida Development Commission has been
busy trying to help secure federal assistance to private enterprise,
and yet it is in those same areas that there are people who decry
federal aid in various other fields. Don't you think this area in
which they are seeking federal aid is an encroachment on private
enterprise?
GOVERNOR: There is not too much private enterprise to encroach upon
in thase areas and that is one of the reasons for seeking federal
aid. Actually once you run a danger, speaking philosophically as
we are, of labeling something federal aid and being against it and
than saying I oi against everything that involves federal aid. but
we are not against all federal aid. We are against that type of
federal aid in which passes control over local government and
individual rights to the federal government beyond its proper
Jurisdiction. [ don't believe that the financing and construction
of a utilities plant in Apalachicola, let's say, is going to deprive
the local people of any rights or powers they now have.
HEIKLEJOHN: what about a fish processing plant that might have
some federal assistance, and is it conceivable that that might
encronch upon a private enterprise elsewhere in the state?
GOVERNOR: Yes, Just as REA might. Yes, there are a number of areas
where there is a partial conflict there.
MEIKLEJOHN: Well, getting it down to more specifics: do you feel
that this is a good program and that it does not -- does it or does
it nor, conflict with your ideas of what is good and bad?
OOVERNFR: If I had been in Congress I probably would not have voted
for this program. It is a program that is on the books. We don't
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live in a vacuum. we live in the world as it is, and the world as it
is. is n world in which area redevelopment is a part of the federal
program and one which I am not prepared to deny to the people of
Florida under those circumstances.
MALDRCH: It is also undeniable that the people in these areas do
need assistance of some sort.
GOVERNOR: They do. The diminishing population is certainly evidence
of that.
LEWIS: Do you know of any project that is being considered, for
instance, take starting at Union, Clay, Lafayette and coming right
on straight back across to, and including, Madison and Taylor
counties: those people have quite a bit of unemployment, do you
know anything that might be forthcoming for those people?
GOVERNOR: I can't nive you specifics, I know that we made a great
effort to have the very first program submitted to the federal
government under this area redevelopment plan and so that we would
get consideration for those counties and I think they have had
considerable success, but I don't know the Specifics of it.
wALBROH: Here you all successful in having the first program?
GOVERNOR: I don't know about that. I think it got in Just as soon
as it was legal to do so.
MEIKLEJCHN: was your attitude on that, would it be the same on
such things as slum clearance and some of the battles we have had
on that, it's a federal program that's on the books.
GOVERNuR: Hell, of course, I am an advocate of slum clearance,
however. where you move into an area and take away property from
private persons and redistribute it to other private persons you
have an additional question involved, which the Legislature so far
has seen fit to answer in tie negative, except in the instances of
certain municipalities. We are trying, however, for instance in
our highway planning program, to always be mindful of the needs of
cambininc the benefits of new highways with those of slum clearance.
VALDRO: Governor, this. digress here a moment if you will -- this
Development Commission work in this field is a long way from its
general public picture of being a promotion agency for tourists and
that sort of thing. Do you think that it is probable that this is
in the wrong agency?
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GOVERNC.: no. I mentioned at one of our first news conferences
the fact that the Development Commission was an agency of tremendous
powers. of wide jurisdiction. I think it is the proper agency to
handle that .
iEWIS: was that not the reason it changed its name several years
ago?
GOVERQR: Bo, sir, it did more than change its name. You are
referring to the old Florida Improvement Commission, which was
abolished because of an investigation, which culminated in the 1953
Legislature, of certain building practices which the Legislature
deemed to be not in the best interest of the State of Florida.
WALDRCN: when will you rename the Development Commission?
OOVEROR: I don't have any time schedule on it.
MILLS: Governor, do you have any comment on the integration in
Volusia County and I understand that one Negro pupil is now
registered in a white school in Broward, not enrolled but registered,
I believe. Do you have any comment on that?
GOVERNOR: No.
WILLS: who will participate in this conference at Cape Canaveral
from the state other than yourself?
GOVERNOR: The Llans tentatively are for Mr. Phillips, of the Road
Department, Mr. Brewer, r. Jarrard, myself, probably a couple or
aides in special areas.
DELANEY: Have you made any progress in getting Max Brewer back up
here as you were suggesting the other day?
GOVERNOR: No, he told me he appreciated my trying to sell his land
for him so fast, but he didn't seem to be inclined to come back up.
HILLS What will be the general subject at this conference, what
the state can do to...?
GOVERFCR: We want to hear on the part of the government what they
anticipate in the way of population and economic expansion there
so that we will have a sound basis on which to make projections of
needs in the area. Whether or not highways have to be relocated,
whether 1-95 in that area should be six-laned instead of four-laned;
whether or not another causeway is going to be called for north of
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the existing proposed causeway, or whether the existing proposed
causeway should be four-laned instead of two-laned. I am not
suggesting any of these things will be done, but of Just the general
exploration to know what we are to do. And, of course, the State or
Florida has considerable land rlghts, I have an idea, in the Canaveral
area, or course we own all the bottom lands and they will be
involved in a take-over; we own the righte-of-way of the roads, and
we probably own, I don't know for sure yet, though I am in the
proc so or finding out, some other lands in that area which will be
subject to condemnation.
HALDRON: This twenty billion dollar figure used about NOVA, is that
an educated guess?
GOVERNOR: It's a guess.
wALDRON: Will that balance the budget?
COVERHOR: Yes, sir. I anticipate the budget will be well balanced.
I don't see how we can avoid balancing it under theae circumstances.
HALDRON: Will these companies that do the building buy their
materials in the state? Do we tax them if they bring them from
out the state?
GOVERNOR: Oh, yes, use tax. Thank you gentlemen.
NILLS: Thank you, Governor.
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or less incidental, as it could be any other reserve unit, it could
be the Boy Seouts even, or the School Boy Petrol, or veterans. He
think the important thing is to call attention to the fact that our
Flag is our symbol of national unity and freedom and should be
treated with respect which has not been apparent in recent years.
When I say this I don't mean at state level only. I mean locally
and even among some national institutions. Cf course, our flags
get tattered and you can't help this because, of course, it costs
money to replace them, but we do feel that in certain instances,
like running the flag up upside down, completely ignoring the fact
that the national colors are passing by in parade, things like this
are indicative of a trend that is not beneficial to the long range
welfare of our nation. Certainly the times are such now on the
international scene that we can do with a little revitalization of
our patriotic nature. e propose to start this program next Tuesday,
September 12. At 8:00 o'clock, in front of the Supreme Court
Building. It will be a very brief ceremony, the Marine Corps in
apprOpriate uniform, the undress blues of this time of the year.
will receive the colors, raise them to the field music, and secure.
Then in the afternoon at 5:00 o'clock, hopefully immediately prior
to the traffic jam which usually occurs in that area, and we will
lower the colors with apprOpriate ceremonies. we hope by doing this
to call attention to the fact that we do have the American Flag which
needs honoring and also perhaps it will have some instructional
value for others who would like to learn more about the proper
ceremcnies that should be used in handling the American Flag. As
time noes on we may bring others in to help us out on this project
and might stimulate similar types of obserVances at other areas here
in the city and perhaps throughout the state. It may become,
completely unofficially, a state-wide project of all Marine Corps
units. As I said it is not per se a Marine Corps project, it is a
project of the local Marine Corps Unit.
GCVERNOR: Thank you. Mr. Landrum.
LANDRUH: The local Marine Corps Reserve unit, the reserves and the
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instructors and advisory staff, who are regular Marines assigned to
this unit, have an American ?1ag which we are going to donate to the
State for use on this occasion, and we hope that sometime that we can
actually fly a holiday flag, which is practically as big as the wall
on the end there. or course. the bigger the flag the more attention
this will draw to it. Captain Graham?
GRAHAM: Captain Landrum, on behalf or the United States Marine Corps,
I would like to present this American Flag to your Reserve unit for
the use in the flag raising ceremonies.
GOVERNOR: Captain Iandrum, may I add to that a Flag of the State of
Florida, and we would appreciate so much if at the time or these
observances. in its appropriate position with relation to the
National Emblem, you would fly also the standard or the State of
Florida.
LANDRUN: We would be most happy to do that as a symbol of our
national and state cooperation.
GOVERNCR: Thank you. Captain Iandrum.
LANDRUN: Thank you very much.
GOVERNOR: Thank you. Captain Graham, Sergeant Mock.
WILIS: Governor, what has been the reaction to this special session
talk and what is your explanation of the likelihood that it will
take place?
GOVERNOR: I don't have any further thoughts than last week. I have
read a Food deal in the newspapers about it, but that has been most
of the activity.
HILLS: have you had the reaction or the legislators?
GOVERNOR: I have had an occasion to discuss it with several, and
there are mixed reactions. Each of them has different ideas about
it. Those that have ideas about money -- I have had to dampen their
enthusiasm somewhat by suggesting that that matter be not considered
at a special session.
UALDRON: Do you have a timetable in your own mind?
GOVERNOR: None in addition to what we discussed last week.
15313: If there is a special session it will be held before the
first or the year, will it not?
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GOVERNOR: That, of course, depends upon the legislators as well as
the administration. I would not want to do anything unless there
was almost complete agreement with the members of the Legislature.
I would assume they would prefer to hold it this year. In my own
JUdgnent, if one was held -- and I say'lg one was held -- it could
well be held this year.
RAKER: Governor, I saw a story in one of the papers this morning
to the effect that Green Cove Springs and Tampa are fighting so
hard over the National Aeronautic Space Administrations lab for
Florida that they might damage the entire state's chances for landing
it.
GOVEROP: I don't think there is anything to that at all. I think
that for each of them to be aggressive in pursuit of the interests
of their own area in this instance is not a bad thing. I have let
Hr. Persons, of the National Space Agency team, know that the state
of Florida would stand effectively behind whichever area is
successful and do everything that we can, in whatever area it may
be allotted, to provide roads, schools and other facilities as
required.
RAEER: Well, first, have you any further word as to whether or not
Florida is in the running, or is leading, and secondly, do you have
any idea of when a decision will be announced?
GOVERNOR: As to the second question, I have no idea. As to the
first, Florida is definitely in contention. Now whether it is
leading or behind. I have nc way of knowing. and don't know.
DELANEY: Have you made any further plans, Governor to visit Cape
Canaveral to discuss the plans down there for.....
GOVERNOR: We have decided upon an agenda but not a date.
MALDRCH: Discussed the plans for what?
DELANEY: For the Nova expansion.
DEIANEY: What will the agenda incorporate?
GOVERNOR: It will consist largely of a discussion by personnel at
the Care of developments as they anticipate then, and then a
discusnion by state officials as to possibilities of meeting the
needs that arise out of those developments, and then finally a
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meeting with the press to advise them of the general nature of the
discussion.
WALDROU: Will Senator Strattcn be in on those meetings?
GOVERNOR: No. It will be a very limited participation at the state
level.
DELANEY: Do you have any rough idea when that might be?
GOVERNOR: I would think it would be probably in the second or
third week in September.
GILLESPY: Are you aware of the hugh controversy going on down in
the southern part or the state over repairs of the Tamiami Trail,
or U. S. 41, I think it is?
GOVERNOR: Yes. I em.
GILLESPY: There is a good bit of hue and cry raised down there.
GOVERNOR: So I understand.
GILLESPY: Have you been notified of it through the Road Department
or in your own.....
GOVERNOR: Hell. I have been in touch with the people in that area
myself concerning it, and, of course, I am thoroughly familiar with
the condition of Ml in that area. I have discussed it with the Road
Department member for that area. As of right now, rights-of-way
have not been procured, there is still much to be done at the county
level before a decision can be made at the state level. You see,
we have in the Fort Myers area also, that tremendous bridge obligation.
You recall that a bridge was started there with no roads leading to
it. The contract had been let and some several hundred thousand
dollars expended at the time this administration took over. The
sentiment in the area, as We gathered it, was that this bridge be
centinued, that Construction be continued, and this seemed good
Judgment, and we have continued it. It would involve the expenditure
of some. as I rccnll, two and a half millions of dollars of primary
funds. plus the cost of constructing roads to each end of the bridge
so that somebody can crons it once it has been built. And this has
some bearing on what other activities can be undertaken in that
area. And then, of course, in the City of Fort Myers itself, there
is very strong feeling for the expansion of the highway through Fbrt
Myers and there is a lot of Justification for it. And then, of course,
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we are trying, and are proceeding in the repairs of bl in the Sarasota-
Venice area and all or these things together combine to lead toward
the solution of this problem at a later date, but it can't be done
overnight or in one fell swoop.
DELANEY: Governor, do you know whether Mr. Hammer has arranged a
hearing in Leeaburg with some people in that area on the Turnpike
extension?
GOVERNOR: NO, I don't.
DELANEY: You have asked him, I believe.
GOVERNOR: I haVQ asked him to be in touch with people in Leesburg
and have a hearing there so that there might be an exhaustive
exploration of their feelings concerning the Orlando-Wildwood
extension, and its effect on the Lake County-Leeoburg economy.
DELANEY: You're satisfied that will be a good, beneficial effect?
GOVERNOR: I am confident it will. It may be. I have not actually
checked the detailed alignment in that area, it hasn't been a
particular concern of mine. We are anxious, however. to see that
the alignment satisfies local interests to the maximum degree
possible consistent with the overall goal.
WALDROH: This bridge you spoke of a moment ago, is that the one
commonly known an the Caloosahatchee River Bridge?
GOVERNOR: well, it is over the Caloosahatchee River, so I suppose
that is what it is known as. I did not know about the name. As a
matter of fact, I did not know a name for it.
THURSTON: Governor. you indicated last week that the state would
reorganlre its road program as necessary to accommodate any plans
made on the NOVA program and the possibility of NASA headquarters
locating in Florida?
GOVERNOR: I didn't make quite that statement, but that is close.
THURSTON: If this is to he, will this reorientation be a shifting
of available resources or will it be an addition to those in the
plans that are now in the works?
GOVERNOR: I would say it involved both.
THUESTOH: And if so. where is the extra money coming tram?
GOVERNOR: Well, if a shirt is necessary, it will have to come from
other arena. If an addition is depended upon, it will have to come
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from increased revenues.
THURSTOH: Would this perhaps be a subject that a special session
of the Legislature might consider?
GOVERNOR: NO.
TBURSTOH: Could the acclisiticn of these extra monies be postponed
until the next regular session?
GOVERNOR: First of all, if this expansion is as extensive as we
think It is. there is going to he a natural increase in revenues
that weren't previously anticipated. Certainly we anticipate
exploring the pessibility of receiving Federal Defense Iapact Area
funds for the construction of defense highways. This 13 a
possibility. Our purpose for meeting with the people at Cape
Canaveral is to explore what will be necessary, and then to explore
the means for providing that will be necessary within our resources.
LEhIS: till they not pay the biggest share of that. Governor.
around 10 per cent is that right?
GOVERNOR: Well, they do on Interstate. Now, what they do on defense
highway: per se, I don't know.
WALDOH: They build them all.
GOVERNOR: Do they build them all? That's good. (laughter) Also
there in, of course. inside the 80,000 acres itself. roads that are
to be abandoned as such, but with traffic needs still to be served.
The Federal government will. under proper circumstances, rebuild
the roads to modern standards at its own expense. we are exploring
the whole area with that in mind, plus, as you know. one road was
under construction in that area at the time the news was announced
and construction on that road was stopped immediately.
MEIKLBJOHN: Any more exciting news about Boos Eaton and the
university that you brought up a couple of weeks ago? (laughter)
GOVERNOR: None that I can announce. Actually the developments are
real 301d.
NEIKLEJOhN: how can I phrase that? (laughter)
DELANEY: Actually developments are real good.
GOVERNOR: well, I will Just say this: that I have firmed up plans
for proceeding. (laughter)
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MBIKLEJCHN: Dara this mean that your exciting plans show promise?
GOVERNOR: Yes, sir.
MEIKLEJOHH: when do you think you might be able to announce some-
thing on that?
GOVBRKCR: within a week.
MEIKLEJOHN: These plans would, say, materially help speed up the
construction of a university at Boca Baton?
GOVERHUR: Yes, sir.
RAKER: Governor, have you had any official visit from the legislators
in some of the counties that seem to be eminently successful in
gettinr out the votes?
GOVERhUR: No, I have not. Incidentally, I have regretted the broad
inference that seems to have been drawn that there was an implication
of dishonesty in these counties. we tried to be very careful in
our statement to delineate that there was no such imputation. In our
third paragraph we said, "It should be made abundantly clear that we
are making no assumption that election frauds have been perpetrated."
That in still so. I think it is a circumstance of sufficient
peculiarity to warrant investigation to determine what are the facts.
But I have not, nor anybody in my office, made any asswnption, nor
has Secretary Adams, made any assumption that anything improper is
involvvd. That is why we are making the investigation to find the
explanation. The first county I heard about. I believe, was Liberty
County, and it is perfectly obvious that a lot of people who used to
live in Liberty County now work in Leon County. I think of George
Nesmith who served in the Legislature with me. I think George now
has his business in Tallahassee, but I bet, without knowing, that
he still votes back in his home county. And until you make a check
there is no way of knowing how much of that there is. That is why
I think an investigation is called for before conclusions are
reached.
MEIKLEJOHN: People in the area over there that were contacted by
our reporter indicated that they felt it was more an economic
problem than it was a vote problem. They think that the people are
seekinr Jobs elsewhere and maintaining their county loyalty, is that
roughly what you were saying?
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OOVEHHDR: Yes. I still vote in Harion County, for instance, and
expect to continue to do so. If there were enough in my category,
Marion might be in this boat.
MEIKLEJOHN: Have you moved that many up here? (laughter)
GOVERHOR: well, let's see, I moved all who would come with me.
(laughter)
DELANEY: Have you appointed a replacement for Juvenile court Judge
in Orange County?
GOVERNOR: No, sir.
DELANEY: Do you expect to?
GOVERNOR: Yes. sir.
DELANRY: Today
GOVERNOR: Today or tomorrow.
NALDRUN: Governor, public officials aside, do you think it is
generally a good practice to live in one county and vote in another?
GOVERNOR: It all depends upon that your intention is. The whole
question of domicile and residence has a long history in Anglo-
Saxon Jurisprudence, and the ultimate factor which is decisive, as
I understand the common law, is your intention to return to the
place that you call your home. You may have sold your house, you
may have virtually abandoned the county from which you came, but if
you still consider that your home and intend to return there and
live rut your days there when one or a series of events is over,
it is still your home. I see nothing improper about that at all.
MEIKIEJOHN: Do you think it is a good idea or do you back up any
plan that would be made to look into the situation to get some
reasonable idea of why it does exist?
GOVERhOR: Oh, yes, and we are pursuing that.
MEIKLEJOHU: What would that include?
GOVERNOR: We have been working with Mr. Adams. This tells largely
in the Field of his office, although he hasn't any direct authority
in that. regard.
MEIKLEJGHN: would you think that that might include an actual check
of persons who are registered in say, Liberty County?
GOVERHHR: I would think in a sample situation -~ I wouldn't say in
Liberty County or in what county -- but I would think in a sample
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