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NEWS CONFERENCE
GOVERNOR PARRIS BRYANT
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA
MAY 31, 1962
NEWSMEN PARTICIPATING: Georgiana Bateman, FLORIDA BROADCAST REVS;
Vernon Bradford, TAMPA TRIBUNE; Hendrix Chandler, ASSOCIATED PRESS;
hotwt w. Delaney, ORLANm SWIM-STAR; Barbara Frye, UNITED PRESS
INTihNATIJNAL: Chuck Goats, FLORIDA BROADCAST NEUS; David Grctsch,
FEES LANCE RADIO; Don Meiklejohn. JOHN H. PERRY PAPERS; Jerry Mock,
FLORIDA TIMES UNION; Allen Morris, CRACKER POLITICS; Ray Starr, NRFB;
Stan Tariluau. FLORIDA BROADCAST NEWS; Rick Tuttle, MIAMI HERALD-
ST. PETERBHURC T (ES SERVICE; Martin Waldron. ST. PETERSBURO TIMES-
MIAMI HERALD SERVICE.
GOVERNOR: This is a group or high school students from Bay County,
which has established a tradition of raising more money in the March
of Dimes right against polio and birth defects than any other group
in the nation. This year again they have raised more money per
capita than any other youth group in Florida; they have raised more
money dollar-wise than any other group in Florida; and I believe
they raised more money per capita than any other group in the nation.
They...
FRYE: We need them in the Democratic Party. (laughter)
GOVERNOR: They are a tremendous credit to Florida, to Bay County, to
the Bay Caunty High School and certainly the March of Dimes
organization is so proud -- and I can speak as one of them.in this
fashion -- to have them working tor the March of Dimes. We have
certain awards to be made here today: one is the Florida March of
Dimes Teen Age Program Award. we are going to make this award which
they won in 1960, 1961 and 1962 they haVe won it ever since it has
been issued -- to Larry Gross and Carol Jean Lewis. Would you stand
please and accept this on behalf of Bay County High School?
We are real proud of you; we are grateful that you are
Floridians and grateful for your interest in this wonderful program.
We have some individual awards: Here is the Key Club Award
which goes this year to Bill Keith for his fight against polio,
against arthritis and birth defects, which the March of Dimes is
sponsoring.
Then we have an award which is put up by the Little Women's
Clubs of Bay County, and this goes to the runner-up in the 1962 Teams
Against Polio contest -- and the winner of this award is Virginia
Pennell. Virginia, I can see why you won this award. It speaks in
your eyes and your race, and I am Just so grateful for you.
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OOVERROR: Well, I dont read much about them. but what I do read
certainly doesn't leave me with that impression. I would say they are
becoming distressingly Democratic in their intra-party squahhlcs.
(laughter)
HEIKLEJOHN: Governor, because of all that harmony we have in the
Democratic Party now, if Sheriff Widener should quit would you
consider a Republican -- (laughter)
DELANKY: What a sneaky Question.
GOVEREOR: Oh, sure I would.
MBIKLEJOHN: Would you?
RALDRON: Net very seriously.
GOVERNOR: vou1c I what?
MEIKLEJOHN: Would you appoint a qualified Republican?
GOVERNOR: Well, I don't know any. (laughter) I am being facetious
one please believe me. That was in the spirit of Jest. Of course I
would. The first thing in making an appointment is to get a qualified
man. and the best qualified men. If you are trying to find the best
qualified man he ought to be appointed regardless of his Party
affiliation. If you find people of equal qualifications then I
would select a Democrat.
TUTILE: th doesn't that apply to elections then? In the pest you
have said you vote Democratic.
GOVERNOR: It does.
TUTTLE: That is not what you said a month ago.
GOVERNOR: Well. I don't think that is I think that is consistent
with everything I have said. what Republican have you heard me
point out that I thought was better qualified than a Democrat?
TUTTLE: Surely there are some somewhere. You haven't named them.
GOVERNOR: No. that's true. (laughter) You may quote him. (laughter)
MBIKLEJORN: no you personally know any Republican in Palm Beach
County that might be the equal of a.nbmocrat for that post?
GOVERNOR: I know some mighty fine ones that are under consideration,
yes. I hays actually talked with some of them concerning this matter.
UALDRON: You said that my question answered itself. How did it
answer it? What answer did it give? (laughter)
GOVERNOR: Well, I thought that the what answer did you give?
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"WALDRON: No, did the question giVe?
OOVBRHOR: Negative.
VALDRON: I have seen several editorial expressions in the newspapers
that the ivory tower segment that this squabble night be good {or
both parties and insure vigorous leadership and I gather from the
negative answer that my question gave you don't agree with this'
GOVERNOR: Well, that conclusion certainly is one that could he
arrived at. (laughter)
ERIE: Governor, how could you campaign for clouds Pepper. I mean
what value do you think you could be in the campaign?
GOVERNOR: To tell you the truth, I don't think he needs any help.
(laughter) Really it does not occur to he that Congressman-nominee
Pepper is going to need any help from the state organization and we
are going to be spending our time, of course, in areas where our help
will be needed and useful. If it should develop that he does need
help. then we will face the problem of how to do it.
DELAHEY: Governor, the general political philosophy that Claude
Pepper has expressed as his seems to be tar from your general
political philosophy. Is this correct?
GOVERROR: In some respects it is. I don't agree with him in many
things that he espoused.
ERIE: The only thing you have in common is that you are both
Democrats?
GOVERNOR: No, that is not true.
WALDRON: They both went to Harvard.
GOVERNOR: We both want to Harvard. (laughter) Is that so unusual?
A number or things I think that anyone must recognize that
COzfossman-nouines Pepper was a very effective member or the
congressional delegation when he served. And I am sure that he still
has that capacity to advance the interests or Florida in many, many
areas.
PHYS: Governor, in looking at the overall picture where do you
think are the areas where the Democrats are going to have to work the
hardest. I mean is it Pinellas and the 11th District?
GOVERNOR: well, I haven't really had a chance to look at the overall
picture. Obviously, there are certain areas. like Pinellas and
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Sarasota and Orange and areas of that kind.
ERIE: Do you anticipate a hard campaign for Jim Relay?
GOVERNOR: I don't even know who his opponent is. Sorry. I couldn't
tell you. Does he have an opponent?
FRYE: Yea, Onell Rusgles.
GOVERNOR: I shouldn't think it would require much cumming.
(laughter)
TUTTLE: Governor. taking your condition about electing or appointing
the boot qualified man for the Job and then applying it back to the
John Sutton Guerney race you are saying that Sutton would he a more
competent official than Guerney. your old roommate?
GOVERNOR: I think that in the framework of the Democratic Party that
John Sutton can do for Florida a real service. Let me say this -
of course you can probably make a headline out of the percenal
proposition of pitting me against my roommate, as far as that is
concerned, but I don't really think that is a matter of any great
significance. It is a news story, but I dont think it is a matter
of any great significance.
TUTTLE: I am Just curious how you have changed it in applying it to
a friend.
GOVERNOR: Well, listen, I have lots of friends who are Republicans.
And I work on them assiduously to try to correct the error of their
ways.
FRYE: Well, how did you happen to room with him. was it a mistake?
Did you all know each other before or did you Just happen to be put
together or what?
GOVERNOR: No, we came to know each other as first year men in law
school and then decided to room together. There were five of us who
shared an apartment in subsequent years.
HOOK: Was he the only Republican?
GOVERNOR: No. One was a Haesanhusetta Democrat, there was a New
Rampehire Republican and there was one nondeecript (laughter)
politically nondeeeript. (laughter)
VALDROR: Governor, were you in Rarvard at the same time as President
Kennedy was?
GOVERNOR: Not that I know of. Now, I don't know when he was there.
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when was he there? The matter is easily determined I was there
from 35 to '33. I presume he probably was. However, he was
undoubtedly an undergraduate and there is not much relationship really
between undergraduates and graduate students. Undergraduates had the
privilege or wearing the short pants and white shoes and things like
that, that graduates don't have.
wALDROh: You carry a green hag?
GOVERNOR: Yes, sir, I did. I don't believe he did.
CHAHnLBR: Governor, on this Party matter, -- how do you plan to go
about revitalizing the Party machinery -- other, perhaps, than
getting a new chairman?
GOVERNOR: What I want to see accomplished in November is the union
or all of the leaders in the Democratic Party towards the common goal
or Democratic victories. I.think that in several counties of the
state where there is Republican opposition of any significance that
the friends of all the leaders should Join hands with the local people
to assure local victories. New, I don't have any great, grand
design for accomplishing this, but I would like to see accomplished
in Democratic action what I have been trying to accomplish in various
areas or state action: In the Legislature and with the Congressional
members in approaching the flood control thing. In other words. the
people who have a common goal actually putting their shoulders to the
same wheel and pushing in the same direction. That's about all there
is to my goals. I don't have any grand design.
DELANEY: There seems to be considerable concern within the
Democratic Executive Committee, OcVernor. over the money that was
raised at the dinner recently at which President Kennedy was the
principal speaker. That, as I recall, was somewhere around $260,000
and I think it was raised, was it not, by a committee or your
coordinating committee?
aovaanoa: That money was raised in this way: Originally as anticipated
an assemblage of 3,000 persons the sale or 3,000 tickets. And the
chratic Executive Omit-tee agreed to sell 1.500 and the candidates
or officeholders and other interested Democrats agreed to sell the
other 1.500. Hell. as it turned out. that group with which I was
associated sold a little over 3,000 and the group with thesxecutivc
Committee sold a little less than 300 and this is how the money was
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raised.
DELANEY: Now what disposition -- is that money to be turned over to
the Democratic Executive Committee or not?
GOVERNOR: No, the only agreement originally wan first of all that,
or course, they would sell their half and we would sell our halt.
And that, or course, did not happen, but we also agreed that we
would pay their 1960 debt - that is the debt from the campaign, if
any. And then we would pay the 1961 national assessment. Well, that
was what it amounted to out of the proceeds.
DELANBY: Is there a 1962 assessment in there, too?
GOVERROE: That has came since that time, you use. And the under-
standing that we had at that time didn't cover the '62 assessment
because there was none. At least if there was I didn't know anything
about it. 1 don't think it had been made at that time.
ERIK: Where is the money? Who has it?
GOVERNOR: It in held by Mr. Robert Morgan of Miami, who was the
original treasurer and who still has the money.
DELANEY: It will be disbursed through him?
GOVERNOR: Yes. or course. he's got it all.
PRYE: He is not in the Executive Committee?
GOVERNOR: The Executive Committee?
PRXK: The state.
GOVERNOR: He is on the State Democratic Executive Committee. Well
he is not any more. I guess they elected a new one down there Tuesday
- Jimmy James has been elected. Up until that time Bob "organ was
on the cemocratic Executive committee. So the money was being held
by a Democratic Executive Committee member as a matter of fact,
although I hadn't thought about that.
DELAREY: But not for the Democratic Executive Committee as such?
GOVERNOR: That's correct.
DELANEY: But rather for your coordinating committee --
OOVBRNOR: That's correct.
VALDRON: Governor, do you all have to pay sales tax on that money
collected?
GOVERNOR: I wouldn't know. I am sure that Mr. Horgen-knew the right
thing to do and did it.
F312: It may all be some. (laughter)
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CHANDLER: Would the State Democratic Executive Committee acting
independently have any prestige in your opinion?
GOVERNOR: I'd rather not get into a -- let me put it this way: I
think that everybody will gain by all Democrats working together. I
think you can multiply prestige. I think the Democratic Executive
Committee will have more prestige working with the officeholders and
candidates than it would without.
ERIE: How does the machinery or that work? now can you merge these
two -- Just the mechanics of it?
GOVBRHOR: wall, that has to be worked out. It can be done. There
would be no problem really. Once we have a desire and will to work
together there will be no problem.
HALDRON: That $260,000 is a great big stick, isn't it?
GOVERNOR: Oh. I wouldn't think or speaking of it in that fashion at
all. (laughter) I think it is a weapon to use for democracy.
HALDRON: Governor, would you dissolve this l-nan coordinating
committee if the State Executivo Committee seemed to you to be more
vigorous and in better shape to handle campaigns?
GOVERNOR: I didn't hear you.
wlLDRON: If the Democratic Executive committee demonstrated to you -
to your satisfaction that it was in a better shape to handle
campaigns than it has in the past. would you be willing to dissolve
your lu-naeber coordinating committee?
GOVERNOR: well, let me say that we have got to have machinery for
the coordination of the candidates efforts with the cmittee's
efforts. New whether it is done through this coordinating committee
or how it is done doesn't make much difference to no.
HALDRON: Well, isn't the committee set up to campaign for Democratic
nominees exclusively -- that's its only function isn't it?
GOVERNOR: Well, I would have to read the statute on that. I don't
know what the law says about that.
PHYS: Will this money that you all collected be used in the '62
Hovemter campaign? to that what it will go for?
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GOVERNOR: Hell that is up to the -- I am not the only voice in that.
There are e number or people that have to have a voice and say. I
would assume that we would utilize this money this fall in electing
cemocrata. But I have only got one vote.
TUTTLE: Have you received any indication from George Smathere that
he might kick back part or that $100,000 he has left over from the
first primary to the Democrats?
GOVERNOR: Didn't know he had it left over. Didn't talk with him
about it. Haven't the remoteet idea.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
HOOK: Thank you. Governor.
Then there is an award which goes to that high school student--
that teenager who is designated Hr. March of Dance and Mr. March
of Dimes for 1962 is Jimmy Martin. Look at that cmilel I oan see
you have been a good salesman. and we are grateful to you for it.
Thank you.
And to Miss march of Dunes for 1962 the award is given to
Jan Allen. Jan it is so wonderful to see you. I know you are
really proud of this achievement and I an proud of the opportunity
to make this award to you.
Thank you all so much for your participation in this program.
(to are. Cooper) We are grateful to you for providing the leader-
ship and the work that you do.
HRS. COOPER: Thie is a repeat for Jimmy and Jan. hr. March of Dimes
and Miss March of tires. They won last year...
GOVERNOR: Isn't that wonderful?
HRS. COOEER: They won individually and the clubs compete against
each other. That's how they won.
GOVERNOR: I see. That's the Key Club and the Little kenen -- it's
the club award and you are taking it on behalf of then?
MRS. COOKER: yes. They compete against all the other clubs in
school.
GOVERNOR: well, that's wonderful. Thank you so much. In there
any participation they would like to do at this time? It might be
that this follow over here (indicating Jimmy Martin) would like to
come up here and make a speech. (laughter)
I want you to tell them what you tell people when you are out
working for the March of Danes, as to why they should contribute to
this wonderful program.
MARTIN: Well, we had different little mementoeo, I gueoo you would
call them we had peanuts, balloons, and little crutches, and we
would ask them if they would like to contribute to this cause for
the Mbvoh or Dimer. There were several different things...
GOVERNOR: That's a lot of hard work for a good cause, isn't that
right?
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MARTIN: Yes, sir. From seven to 5:30 in the afternoon.
GOVERNOR: stta boy. I am very proud of you. Thank you very much.
no you have any questions today? Well, it not... (laughter)
BARB!!! Speaking of Pam City .- madarstand that edmstional
television is going into that area within the next 3 years, can you
tell me what the next step is in the development.....
GOVERNOR: There are some five areas in Florida where the
Educational Television Commission is proposing to establish
additional broadcasting units. One is at Pensacola and one is at
Panama City. New Just exactly the schedule on this is going to
depend (a) on the local participation and (b) on the Federal action
in making funds available. We, of course, are going to receive
a reimbursement of 25 per cent or the capital investment we have
so far made, which will enable us to go ahead with our additional
local funds to do some of the programs that ETV will recommend.
And the first thing will depend upon the action of the Legislature
in making more funds available. Because of neither of these three
as yet determined, I can't say with a definiteness of what the
Panama City program is going to be, as I can't any or the areas
that are designated.
DBLAHBY: Do you know what the other three are. Governor?
GOVERNOR: west Palm Beach -- and incidentally, the Florida
Atlantic University; its facilities. we are planning to work into
this and that establishment will probably be in that connection.
I think one is in the Brevard area, and one in the Fort Mysrl. I
really ought -- I have a report on my desk and I would rather give
you that -- it is a very specific report, and it's accurate where my
memory is not.
PRYE: Governor. what is your reaction to this recommendation for a
200 million dollar bond issue to finance a space education and
other.....
GOVERNOR: Oh. when Mr. Pine made his speech? I haven't had a
chance to review it. I did hear Dr. Broward Culpepper do the
summation but not enough to make a Judgment on. Let me say that
the programs outlined yesterday by the various educational leaders
who participated in the conference called for the expenditure or
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some $550 million. well, obviously this is a figure of such a
size that it is not immediately feasible. The purpose of this
conference was to bring into focus all the recommendations and
studies that are being made by leadership groups around the state
so that (l) we can take the best of their ideas: (a) we can
establish some order of priority; (3) we can integrate their
proposals uith other plans that the Board of Control and the
Board of Education have for the expansion of our university program
and system. And I think that my only reaction to Mr. Fine's
proposal and the Chamber of Commerce proposal is this: It is
stimulating for me to find that the Florida State Chamber of
Commerce ready to make a recommendation for that kind of
expenditure in the field of higher education. And is indicative
of the fact that the business community, at least, is strongly
behind an advanced prograa in that area.
FRIE: Well, do you generally think that we are going to have to
so to this type of financing. I suppose since you have already
started it that this 825 million that you favor, that you favor
that type of a program.
GOVERNOR: H 11, everyone prefers, as i do, a pay as you so program.
But until we review, and hr. Smith is working on projections now,
and until we look at the overall financial picture, it is
impossible for me to say. I do have in mind a possibility of a
method of raising funds that will not require any additional pledge
of the state's revenue or funds at all, but will make use of other
sources. However, until the Federal legislation has been completed
and we know what is available by way of grant and loan and on what
terms there, it is impossible for me to reach a conclusion on this.
HOOK: Hell, would you like to elaborate on that plan?
GCVBRHOR: On what plan?
noon: The plan that you said.....
GOVERNOR: NO. I wouldn't.
FREE: Does that have to do with the educational foundation -- that
SP0? you are chairman of?
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GOVERNOR: No. It has nothing to do with that at all.
TUTTLB: YOu could not use student fees, could you? Are there any
not pledged that you could use?
GOVERNOR: I think there is about $113 that is now charged per
semester and I think we usually use these from $10 to $20 depending
on the institution. we are using that portion which is dedicated to
capital outlay. No more could be used. certainly, without legislative
approval, let me put it that way.
PRYE: Is your plan a bond plan?
GOVERNOR: I would rather not expand on it at this time.
GHAHDLER: Governor. haVe you expressed an opinion as to the needs or
this scientific and technical information center proposed for the
Canaveral or Orlando area?
GOVERNOR: I am very enthused about the proposal. New whether it is
established at Canaveral or whether it is established at Gainesville,
or where it might be established. is a matter for the Board of
Education to determine and the Legislature after recommendations from
the Board or Control. But I think this Scientific and Technical
Information Center is really a wonderful tool for us to use in
higher education and industrial promotion.
FRYE: Do you foresee that the need or this type or a university in
that area would take a priority OVer the u-year university at
Pensacola?
OOVEROR: well. now he is not talking about a university -- he is
talking about an information center.
CHANDLER: Well some people have also talked about having a space
university......
GOVERNOR: Oh, it's two different things.
PRYE: Yes, but it is all part of the space education center as the
Council of 100 proposed it?
GOVERNOR: however, that could be done independently of each other,
each without the other.
ERIE: But you said they all should be right there together.
GOVERNOR: Hell, of course, there is a lot to recommend that and I
am not -- let me say that as far as Pensacola is concerned my
position on it has been long established, and I asked the Legislature
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to provide $100 thousand to carry forward the plans for that
institution. We are waiting now on Dr. walkes to make his report
and I shall certainly be strongly influenced by the recommendations
in that report. I haven't the renotest idea of what it is going to be
at this time, except that to me it looks as though there is a good
case for a four-year college in the Pensacola area.
PE?Â¥: ind you don't think the situation would arise where you would
have to choose between them?
entrance: No. I don't think they are competitive except in a very
minor sense.
CHANDLER: Is there a danger. Governor, that we will get more
universities than we could support?
GOVERNOR: Sure.
TUTELE: But a four-year college at Pensacola would not endanger this?
GOVERNOR: I don't think we are.....Do you say is there a danger of
this? There is a danger -- I don't think it is eminent. I don't see
anything that we have on the boards now that would test our capacity.
remote: no you feel that you have a firmer grip on the nonooratie
Phrty this week than last week?
GOVERNOR: Well, I didn't have one on it last week. and I don't have
one on it this week. I am trying to maintain continuing interest in
the fortunes of the Danoeratic Party in Florida and the nation as I
think a Democratic Governor has a responsibility to do, but I am not
trying to get a grip on anything.
CHANDLER: Governor, do you think there is a need for legislation
which would place the Democratic Executive Committee and the
Enumeratic Chairman in a different legal relationship with the
cowernor?
GOVERNOR: I would hope that the kind of harmony that we need can be
aehieved without legislation. Actually to be effective, all the
leaders in the Party have got to have common goals and work together.
I say all the leaders: I don't mean 100 per cent, because obviously
in a Party -- as President Kennedy has said you are going to find
great divergencies of view in a Party as great and enduring as the
Democratic Party. But I would hope that in the business of electing
Democrats against Republicans we can be unified and that this can be
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eohicved throng: e unity of goele rether then compulsive legieletion.
um: Water, will you redwood thet the Stete veneeretic
uecutive con-inc: elect e different cheirnen et its meeting in
June?
GOVERNOR: I don't expect or think thet they will eel: me for
momendetione.
HAW: Will you make one enywey?
mama: I feel this way etout thie diecueeion of perecnelitiee in
connection with the Dunccretic Executin Omittee. I hove tried to
retrein this diecuccion. l u trying to echieve her-ow. not
dieherncny or dicunity end. therefore, I would rether not be involVed
in eny public diecueeione ct pereonelacc-eendeticu or mthim ct
thet kind eo (er en the Heretic Perty ie concerned.
we: will you go to thet meeting!
caveman: No, I won't.
venom": Do you know where it in going to he?
GOVERNOR: Don't even know men it ie going to be.
um: Governor. there hee been e report thet you night he in en
ewkwerd position in the congreccionel dietrict in Orlando thie tell
in thet you ere clone perecnel friend or the Republican noninee end
ee e Decent would be celled upon to Import the Moreno nominee.
1e thet very well the eituetion?
GOVERNOR: Thet is pretty well the eituetion.
lm: will you c-peixn exeinet the old friend?
am: It laud be e very difficult end merd eituetion for no,
or couree. but I expect to were to u ctligetione with the
anaemic Petty in every instance.
m: that in the beckground of your reletionehip with Gurney?
caveman: 8e end I were rocenetee in lea echool end worked together
in the emrtine end heve been triende non for cone 23 or 24 yeere.
me: the he a Republicen then?
GOVERNOR: Yec, ne'cn, he ie tron Heine end he cen't help it.
(lmghter) a. bee chcun e cepecity for growth by denim to ncride
end eeybc he hee not reeched the peek of hie neturity in thet reepect.
(mater)
run-u: w you intend to redo-end John Sutton?
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GOVERNOR: Yes.
DELANEY: Governor, will you campaign for all the Democratic
candidates for Congress?
GOVERNOR: If they want me to.
DELANEY: Will you campaign for former Senator Pepper?
GOVBBNOR: If he wants me to.
DELANEY: In other words, you dont intend to volunteer your services
unless -~
GOVERNOR: I am going to try to do this as far as this campaign is
concerned: I am going to try to get all Democrats working together -
that is it purely and simply. Now the details of what Ill be doing
or where I'll be or for whom I'll be speaking is one thing, but I
think the Democrats ought to be working together. And I expect to
work for all the Democrats.
DELANEY: We got the impression or rather I did ~- let me put it in
the singular from your statement yesterday that you were pleased
with the outcome or the races for county executive ocmmitteemen and
committeewomen around the state?
GOVERNOR: Committeemen in the counties?
DELANEY: Yes.
GOVERNOR: Yes. I think there are some fine Democrats. I think
overwhelmingly we have a good quality or committeemen and committee-
women.
DELANEY: Roughly :00 or the total membership of 130 of the executive
committee were people who were re-elected without opposition, is that
correct?
GOVERNOR: Right. I guess that's right. I'll take your word for it.
DELANEY: Mr. Milligsn said yesterday that he was confident that he
would be re-elected State Chairman for another h-year term based on
the expressions of confidence in his leadership that he has had from
those members. Do you have any reason to doubt this?
GOVERNOR: well, I think that is a very -- not having talked with the
members myself it would be presumptious or me to express my opinion.
DELANEY: Do you expect to talk to any or them?
GOVERNOR: Well, normally I do talk with Democrats around the state
and so, yes, I would expect to. However, if I talk to 10 between now
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and whenever they are going to have the meeting, I would think that
would be an outside figure of a number that I might in the normal
course of affairs contact.
DELANEY: Have you heard or any mentors or the committee, Governor,
either an old member who was re-elected or a newly elected member
who might actively seek the chairmanship, other than Hr. hilligan?
GOVERNOR: again, let no say that - and I keep getting away from it
~- and this will respond to your question I don't want to get
involved in peraonalities. If somebody is going to run against him,
tine. It not, that's fine. I mean this in the thing it is a free
country. And I would rather not be involved in public diacussion of
peraonalitioa.
cram: Governor, do you think that we could have harmony -- unity
within the Party it we had an independent Party Chairman who was
going in his direction and the coordinating committee going in
another direction?
OOVEHHOR: Hell, I think your question answers itself.
WALDRON: Well, GoVernor, theae last three weeks of harmony in the
Demouratio Party -- has it been good for the Party in your opinion?
oovzduon; well, I think your question answers itself.
FEVE- Well, we can't quote him.
GOVERNOR: I think it is a non sequitur. (laughter) I think that
question was a non soquitur.
FRYE: That stopped him.
TUTILE: Governor, have you made any attempt to determine how much
the Republicans are benefitting from.a11 this squabbling within the
homoeratic Party?
GOVERROR: well, it Republicans benefitteu from intro-party tights,
there wOuldn't be an; Dcncorats in America because I think it has been
characteristic of homeopatc that they do right among themselves until
they get up to the snorting-poet, an it were, and then because of their
vitality and appeal to the electorate they carry the day in most
instances.
NORRIS: Governor, are the Republicans in uoride proving themselves
to be models of calmness?
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