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NEWS CONFERENCE
GOVERNOR FARRIS BRYANT
FEBRUARY 9, 1961
TALLAHASSEE. FLORIDA
Newsmen participating: Robert Delaney, ORLANDO SENTINEL; James
Gilleapy, UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL; David Oretach, FREE LANCE
RADIO; Don Meiklejohn, JOHN H.PERRY NEHSPAPERS; Allen Norris,
CRACKER POLITICS; Harold Parr, ASSOCIATED PRESS; George Prentice,
HTVT; Tom Baker, FREE LANCE NEWS; Arthur Richardson, FIDRIDA TIMES
UNION; George Thurston, GEORGE THUHSTON NEWS; Rick Tuttle, MIAMI
HERALD; Martin Haldron. TAMPA TRIBUNE.
GOVERNOR: In cooperation with the associations representing the
city and county officials, I have appointed a Governor's Advisory
Committee on Local Services, through which we are going to try to
correlate the thinking and activities or these two groups and lend
them such advice and such assistance at the state level as can be.
Representing the counties and their government will be Thomas Smith
of Gadsden County; John R. Durrance of Alaohua; and J. B. Thornhill,
Jr. of Polk County. These are the top three officials in the
county officials organization. Also Fletcher Morgan of Duval County
and Ben McGahey of Dede County; Hillard Peebles. Representing cities
and their governments will be Harold Spaet of Miami Beach; Julian
Iane of Tampa; Percy Hopkins of West Palm Beach; Robert Carr of
Orlando; T. Brannen Copeland of Panama City; and Dr. Richard
Cumming of Ocala. I have asked them to meet here in the Cabinet
Room at 2:30 P.M., Friday, February 17. This meeting will follow the
first meeting of a group being chairmaned by Perry Willita. of Miami.
which I have already called on in relation to community growth
problems. largely outside of cities.
I would like to say relative to the inquiries I have made
about a Dean of Faculties at Florida State UniVersity, that I have
gone over this in quite some detail with Dr. Culpepper and Dr.
Blackwell. I will anticipate your questions by saying that I have
had no meeting with other members of the Cabinet on this matter.
They were not at my conference with these two gentlemen at all.
although they have conferred independently, I believe, or some of
them have, with one or both of them. My own resolution of this
problem is that the administrative structure of P. S. U., as now set
up with the proposed Dean of Faculties, is preper. That with the
Dean of Faculties handling academic matters, a Vice President
handling administrative matters, a business manager handling financial
GOVERNOR: Ch yes, I don't think there is any necessary limit. If
there is a limitation, it is an economic limitation, and I am not
sufficiently familiar with those limitations.
WALDRON: I must be a little bit dense -- run through what a free
port is again.
GOVERNOR: well, let's take MacDill Field as an illustration. Mac
Dill has a fence around it and it's on deep water and it has an air-
port. You could fly or ship materials from England into MacDill in
bulk and warehouse them there and display them to merchants in the
united States or to merchants coming from South America or anywhere
in the world. If somebody wanted to buy those materials, either
after they have been repackaged or relabsled in any fashion or in
bulk, they can be shipped to that destination. It the destination
was in the United States, then the import duties would be paid at the
time they cross the line surrounding the free port. If the destina-
tion was Venezuela, there would be no Uhited States duty whatsoever.
This has a number of advantages for America. For instance, let's say
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port with no duty until he needed to send them to the retailer in a
distribution area. It, therefore. saves him a considerable amount or
money. He is anxious to use MacDill, therefore, because of that.
WALDRON: Thank you, that cleared it.
TUTTLE: Is it likely that the Jacksonville, Tampa or Miami -- the
area which comes up with the best deal for the state as far as pro-
vision of land -- might well get the free port?
GOVERNOR: Not so far as provision of land. The total economic pic-
ture will determine. The free port has got to be a profitomaking or
a self-sustaining operation and whichever one of these comes up with
a self-sustaining operation can do it.
BAKER: At the risk of asking a question that will disclose my com-
plete ignorance, can you name some outstanding examples of tree ports?
GOVERNOR: Panama
RAKER: Canal Zone?
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GOVERNCR: Not in the Canal Zone, but in the Free Zone, is one or the
outstanding examples. I believe there is one in Baltimore, New
Orleans and San Francisco and New York.
RAKER: Other than New Orleans, there is not one in the South?
GOVERNOR: It is the only one or which I know.
PRENTIOE: Isn't there one in Houston?
GOVERNOR: Not that I know of.
PRKNTIOE: Is it not true that also, Governor, these are to be oper-
ated by free enterprise or by governmental agencies?
GOVERNOR: Ch, yes.
TUTTLE: Which would you prefer in Florida -- government operation
or free enterprise?
GOVERNOR: I like free enterprise.
WALDRON: Have you decided what loopholes you are going to close in
the tax law again?
GOVERNOR: Some of them.
THURSTON: Governor, before we leave the free port. If the tree port15
operated by private enterprise, for example a clock importer. would
this facility be available to importers or manufacturers of other
types of goods?
GOVERNOR: Hell, actually, the way it will work -- probably a port
authority will operate the thing but they will rent out land or sell
it within the area for the construction of warehouses by free enter-
prise. And normally a warehouseman can build and rent out to others,
depending on the regulation or the port. I would expect that the
operation would be a mixture or government and free enterprise
sponsorship.
THURSTON: Would you expect any free port established would be a
general service port rather than specializing in any one thing?
GOVERNOR: I would certainly hope that it would be general service
in nature. I use a clock Just as one illustration of the type of
thing that might be served.
FARR: Governor, getting back to Mr. Haldron'e question -- what are
the decisions you have made relative to plugging loopholes?
GOVERNOR: I am interested in better laws and better enforcement
relative to collection of taxes on fuels and am having a study made
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concerning that. I am interested in consideration of the wisdom
of eliminating a $5.00 motor vehicle tag.
MORRIS: Governor, when you say fuel -- specifically what do you
mean? Do you mean truck fuels, or --
GOVERNOR: Yes.
MORRIS: Diesel fuel?
GOVERNOR: Yes, that's right.
HALDRON: The last Legislature had a committee appointed to study
all tax laws in Florida with a view to rewriting them. Are you in
favor of such a procedure?
GOVERNOR: Rewriting all tax laws?
WALDRON: Yes, sir.
GOVERNOR: No, sir.
UALDROH: Their idea, as I understood it, was that some of the
language was archaic, ambiguous and confusing. In your message
where you recommend only specific changes?
GOVERNORS Reommmend only specific changes and no general changes
you mean?
WALDRON: Yes.
GOVERNOR: I have no present intention to include anything of a
general nature relative to overall tax revision.
MEIKLEJORN: A subcommittee has made a preliminary recommendation
on cutting back the intangible tax to, I believe it's $1.50 a
thousand rather than $2.00 a thousand. making it effective in 1962.
and they also recommend strengthening the enforcement of that. no
you think that this would be a good move?
GOVERNOR: The proposal I have seen is for a two-stage reduction. The
first reduction being to l-% mills and the second to 1 mill. This
has enough merit to deserve consideration.
FARR: In view of the rather barren state treasury, where would you
plan on making up that revenue that you would lose?
GOVERNOR: Well. the thesis of this proposal is that by better
enforcement and by the advertising that would be achieved through
the reductions you would offset the losses.
WALDRON: Are you convinced this 2-mill tax will bring in more capital?
GOVERNOR: Yes, sir, I am. Very definitely.
FARR: Governor, in the budget sessions of the past two days there
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was no mention at all of pay raises for the public school teachers.
Now, it is my understanding that you favor in a general way some
relief for the school teachers. Do you plan on any supplement to
recommendations for school teachers?
GOVERNOR: It is going to depend on the economic developments between
now and the end of the Legislature. among other things. My comit-
ment during the campaign to the school teachers was to finance in
full the Minimum Foundation Program. That, of course, is recommended
by the budget which we have proposed. Further than that my commit-
ment was, if economic conditions of the treasury permit, to place
emphasis upon expansion of salaries in that field.
HALDRON: Do you believe that local groups have done as much as they
can toward supplementing teachers' salaries?
GOVERNOR: As much as they can no.
WALDRON: As much as they should?
GOVERNOR: Some have and some haven't.
MEIKLEIOHN: With $115 million in requests on buildings and $28
million presently available. do you think that a new university at
Boca Raton would fit into the priorities that would allow within
the $28 million or is it somewhere above that?
GOVERNOR: I have not yet studied the finished proposed priorities.
RICHARDSON: Are there any more questions?
GOVERNOR: I'd like to make one more comment. Mr. Evans showed me
hastily as I came in articles relative to an automobile that was
given to me yesterday, which Mr. Haldron quite accurately described
as a compact limousine. (laughter) There are several things that
I would like to say about it. First of all. the title of the
automooile will not be in me personally. This is the property of
the State ofFlorida. Secondly, it was not the gift of anybody
connected with state government nor a resident of the State of
Florida. Somensferenoe was made to Mr. Jarrard in connection with
the gift. Mr. Jarrard is not connected with Triumph Motor Company
in any way. As a matter of fact, his connectbn with the automobile
industry is in competitor lines rather than with Triumph, so that if
there is any self-service on his part there I am not conscious of it.
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MEIKLEJOHN: Isn't it true that he does sell Triumph through his
Plymouth agency in Pensacola?
GOVERNOR: If this is true. I am not aware of it. I do know that
he was, before he became Development Commission Director, the
Southeastern distributor for this among all other automobiles. but
he disposed of his interests about seven months ago he broke off
and sold out his entire interests.
MEIKLEJOHR: That sale was to the man that gave you the car was it
not?
GOVERNOR: It was to the Standard Triumph Company, American Division.
MEIKLEJOHN: That is who gave you the car?
GOVERNOR: The car was not given to me, Don. It was given to the
State of Florida by the Standard Triumph Company.
WALDRON: You were quoted as saying that you were going to "use it."
are you really going to ride around in that little oar?
GOVERNOR: I really already have. (laughter) My wife and I went
for a spin last night in it. We add it. you know, to one that was
given to the state of Florida three or four years ago and which is
sitting in the garage at the Mansion. By the way, that was given
by Renault Company, which Mr. Jarrard at that time did represent,
and it was given to my predecessor in office, although hr. Jarrard
was my campaign manager shortly before that time in the campaign
against my predecessor.
HALDRON: What rank would a driver hold if he drove for you in that
car? (laughter)
DELANEY: PFC? (laughter)
GOVERNOR: It would probably be my wife and be the very highest rank.
RICHARDSON: Thank you, Governor.
GOVERNOR: Thank you.
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matters, and a Dean of Students handling relationships of the
University administration with its student body, Dr. Blackwell will
have an effective administrative organization which will enable him
to perform his proper functions through these administrative
representatives without necessarily being lost himself in the details
of doing these Jobs.
Particularly with reference to the Dean of Faculties I am
convinced that Dr. Blackwell's goals of strengthening the academic
orientation of the university will be serVed.
DELANEY: Gorernor, you said you had reached the conclusion that
this administrative structure is proper. Has there been a suggestion
that there was something improper about it?
GOVERNOR: Yes, I was the one who suggested it was improper, because
I wasn't sure that it was a needed position. I didn't see uhere a
Dean of Faculties could fit in the administrative structure, and
any excess position is an improper one. I didn't mean improper in a
moral sense, but in an administrative sense. However, I now think
that it is proper.
FARR: Do you approve of the man Dr. Blackwell has selected?
GOVERNOR: I have never met him. The selection of his sides, by
and large, is a matter for the President. If he selects aides which
consistently are bad: we need a new President; if he selects aides
which for the most part are good: then he is doing a good Job.
GILLESPY: Do you have any comment about the difference in the
number of Deans at Florida State and the number at the University
of Florida?
GOVERNOR: Yes, I have looked into that also. Actually the
difference was apparent, not actual. When you look at the Jobs that
are being performed by persons who are called Deans at one school.
but called some other name at the other institution, it develops
that the University of Florida has about one more Dean by that
classification, than R.8.U. The relation is more in line with what
ought to be, than appeared by the definition engrossed in the budget.
FARR: Governor, at your meeting last night with members of the Road
Board, did the question of reinstating any of the discharged or
suspended engineers or any of the contractors......
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GOVERNOR: Yes, it did. We discussed the entire range of problems
facing Florida in the organisation of its Road Department.
PARK: But was any decision reached regarding the engineers?
GOVERNOR: You would have to ask the Chairman about that. I
expressed my own views relative to it. but, of course, Mr. Philips
and the Board are the authorities in that connection. I suggested
that the preper way to approach the question of these engineers is
this: First of all, of those that have been released from service:
Are they qualified professionally to serve the State Road Department?
If they are not qualified profeseiOnally they should not be re-
employed under any circumstances. If they are qualified professionally
then the question is: has the nature of their offense such as to
bar them permanently from employment? There was quite a difference
in the conduct of different of the engineers, and while I have not
gone too much into the detail of that, the offenses of each was not
the same. Where a moral terpitude of a serious nature was involved,
they should not be employed. Where they fell into a practice as an
act of weakness, and carelessness, rather than with an intent to
commit a crime, particularly where no evidence of wrong-doing has
been uncovered, then I feel that these men have by and large been
punished enough, and if they can do the State of Florida a decent
Job, should be reemployed.
I think we ought to keep in mind that it would be very difficult
for them to get Jobs elsewhere -- virtually impossible. I would like
to point out too, that these incidents did not happen during this
administration. and I suggested to Mr. Philips that if it should be
his decision to reemploy any of these men, they should clearly
understand that this is not a three-strike-end-out situation. This
administration will not tolerate any conduct which is not clearly
consistent with the best interests of the State of Florida.
FARR: How about the contractors?
GOVERNOR: So far as contractors are concerned, I asked the Board to
hold their decision as to what should be done until they had
determined firstcfall, whether or not the State of Florida has
suffered from the conduct of these contractors. Secondly, how
many contractors, if any, in addition to those that have already
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been suspended had been involved, and then depending upon their
findings, reinstate them or not reinstate them as seems best
indicated. If the State of Florida has not been injured, I feel
that these men should be reinstated after they have been punished
by suspension for a reasonable length of time.
MBIKLEJOHN: You say injured in the form that there was some had
work done by the contractor?
GOVERNOR: Yes. For instance if the State of Florida has got
inferior roads. Now if a contractor is distributing largesse
because it is part of a pattern or for whatever reason, but he
never gets inspected or tends to get inspectors to pass over his
Work, and the State of Florida does not suffer, he is not only not
guilty of a crime, but a lesser punishment would be called for than
if he were guilty of a waiver of standards damaging to the state
for his own benefit.
WALDRON: If the check of the roads disclosed some sub-standard
work, that wouldn't necessarily mean that there had been collusion
would it?
GOVERNOR: No. That is part of the investigation. It is hard to
make a general statement about these things because new facts come
up constant y. Committee hearings next week are going to bring
out new facts, some of which we are already apprised. My feeling is
you have simply got to evaluate what these fellows have done and
fit the punishment to the "crime." And I use "the crime" in
quotation marks because, of course. as you know, so far as we know
now, no crime as such has been committed.
MEIKLEJOHN: Let's go the other direction on it. We have talked
about conditions in which nothing was found. If something precise
in the way of inferior roads were found and it were connected up to
the engineer and the contractor, would yaur administration ask for,
or suggest to the proper authorities. that criminal actions be
taken against these people?
GOVERNOR: I really haven't considered it, but I would say that if
they are found to have been guilty of specific crimes, they will be
punished.
HALDRON: no you think that the state needs laws to protect it from
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situations of this kind?
GOVERNOR: Well, of course it does, but your real protection comes
from strong administration by honest administrators. I am not
nearly the sealot for reform laws that I was when I first entered
the Legislature, because having participated in the passing of many
reform laws, I discover year after year that if you haven't got
honest men administering them they don't work and if you do have
honest man. then you don't really need reform laws so much. This is
a generalization. of course.
MORRIS: Honest and alert?
GOVERNOR: Honest and alert.
RAKER: Do we draw from that any sort of inference that if there
is found to be any evidence of wrongdoing that it would likewise be
evident that the administration was not honest or was not strong or
was not alert prior to yours?
GOVERNOR: I would rather not comment now because it1ould serve no
good purpose. Except to say this is something we have inherited.
I didn't ask for it, but it is in my lap and we are going to do our
best first of all to clean it up and second to correct the sources
of this sort of difficulty.
WALDRON: Have the three ex-F.B.I. employees that have been hired
some up with anything new yet?
GOVERNOR: I think there are four. I hope there are four. They
are coming up with semething new all the time.
VALDRON: Anything you can tell us about?
GOVERNOR: No, air. We have gotten everybody to work on this thing
we possibly can -- of quality.
REIKLEJORN: If nobody has any more questions on this, I would like
to ask you one about this Advisory Committee you announced earlier.
What will be the purpose of it?
GOVERNOR: The purpose of this Admisory Committee is to assist us
in preparing. among other legislation, ways to improve the rendition
of services by local govarnment.
WALDRON: Have them find a new tax source?
GOVERNOR: If they want to consider that they certainly can, I shall
not charge them to. But I would not bar them from looking in that
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area. Frankly, however, that is the first time that thought has
occurred to me in connection with this committee.
MBIKLEJORN: During budget considerations, Attorney General Richard
Ervin suggested the possibility of a law allowing you to use the
Sheriff's Bureau. I believe you commented that investigators, or
good investigators, were one of your greatest needs. Have you any
specific recommendations on how the Governor might use the Sheriff's
Bureau?
GOVERNOR: That was the first reference to that that I had heard
and frankly, I haven't had time to think about it since then.
MEIKLEJOHN: You haven't formed any opinion on how it might be used?
GOVERNOR: No. This problem arises, of course: you get a letter
in the mail or somebody calls you and said this-that-or-the-other
is being done, and if it's true, it's something you ought to be
concerned with and doing something about; and if it's not true you
ought to be satisfied that it's not true3snd with one investigator you
have a hard time. We are talking in our Little Cabinet meetings of
trying to make a sort of pool of the investigators that are attached
to the various boards.so that when there is a lot of need in one
area, we can borrow from one to the other and thereby have the
forces required on any particular problem at any particular time.
MEIKLEJOHN: Have you considered keeping the four FBI men on after
this road thing?
GOVERNOR: Not within present budgets. The Road Department certainly
will not need them very long. and I have not included amounts for
them in existing budgets.
DZLANEY: Governor, have you set a definite schedule for these
little cabinet meetings or are you going to have them Just from
time to time.
GOVERNOR: We tried to hold them once a week, but so far we haven't
been able to hold but two. He Just can't get together with
sufficient frequency.
MORRIS: Governor, what success are you achieving in your efforts
toward getting the North Florida Barge Canal underway?
GOVERNOR: I am very pleased with the progress, and must give most
of the credit to others -- Senator Smathers, of course, and Senator
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Holland, by initiating requests with the Bureau of the Budget under
this administration to reinstate or to put in the budget $20 million
for the canal, have strengthened the right for that proJeot. I
believe that there is more nearly unanimity or opinion in favor or
the canal among political leaders and among the public generally at
this time than ever in my memory and this is the climate, of course,
that breeds success.
MEIKLEJOHN: Has the opposition that has been expressed by railroads
been overcome?
GOVERNOR: No. air. It hasn't stopped. They are still opposing it.
I have talked to some of the high officials or the railroads on this
subject matter and they are still opposing it.
MORRIS: Is there anything that the Legislature of Florida can do
to hasten the day that the work starts?
GOVERNOR: Well, I hope that before the Legislature meets, the
Federal Congress, or the Bureau of the Budget at least. will have
recommended inclusion or $20 million for this project, and there
will be no necessity for state legislation. Frankly, this is a
problem of national scope with an opportunity to link Galveston and
New Yerk by inland waterway. This proJeot. of course. is the key to
the development of inland waterways in Florida. It is the necessary
prelude to the Sanforddritusville canal, it's the necessary prelude
to the completion of the inland waterway from Tampa north to the
present terminus, and to the deepening of channels on both sides and
generally to the overall improvement of inland water structure in
Florida.
MORRIS: Does the old and existing Ship canal Authority still
possess the right-of-way?
GOVERNOR: All that they purchased. that's true. They have disposed
of no right-ot-way that I have any knowledge of. They have quite
a number of thousands of acres but I believe they are quite a
number or thousands of acres short. Incidentally, I read in the
paper somewhere that Bryant was for years attorney for the Ship
Canal Authority. This is not true. I, at one time, represented the
Cowart Brothers of Jacksonville in some litigation which they
brought in the name of the Canal Authority relative to Camp Roosevelt
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in Ocala. I have never been on the Canal Authority payroll in any
sense at all. nor employed by them for any purpose.
DELANEY: Has anybody ever figured out anything to do with those
big pillars outside of Ocala?
GOVERNOR: No, nor the pyramids of Egypt, or anything else. Yen
Just look at them, there they are. (laughter)
WALDRON: What are those things?
GOVERNOR: They were originally designed as the supports for a
bridge to go over the canal which was to be dug between them.
PRENTICE: Governor, there has been talk of establishing a free
port either in Jacksonville or Tampa. Has there been anything new
develop on that?
GOVERNOR: And Miami.
PRENTICE: Miami?
GOVERNOR: Yes, or course the Legislature has approved by statute
the establishment or a free port at Miami. I have had discussions
with a group of officials from Duval who were interested in promotion
of Blount or Goat Island. Incidentally, Goat Island is the one that
was involved with the Ship Canal some time ago.
I may have to correct my statement or a moment ago. was I
employed by the Canal Authority on Goat Island?
MORRIS: I really don't know. I was under that impression. (laughter)
Perhaps Just as a volunteer or interested citizen.
GOVERNOR: I don't believe I ever got any fee from the Canal
Authority for anything, but it's conceivable that I did in connection
with -- (laughter) No, I didn't. (laughter) No, I was not
employed relative to Goat Island.
TUTTLB: You've got three yes's and three nos. (laughter)
GOVERNOR: Well, I will have to check my books. My present
conviction is that I have never been employed by them. I think I
would remember a fee of that kind.
DELANEY: If you were and you didn't get paid you'd better get a
new bookkeeper.
GOVERNOR: Yes. that's right. Now, each of these locations have
strong arguments to advance for the establishment of a free port in
their area.
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WALDRON: Was Jacksonville trying to sell you back Goad Island for
two million dollars or something like that?
GOVERNOR: No. they want to establish it as a free port there
provided the state will assume the coat of building the bridge
across the river to it. I don't know what the cost of that bridge is.
FARR: At the risk of displaying my abysmal ignorance, what is a
free port?
GOVERNOR: A free port is an area within the national domain which
is exempt under regulations and safeguards provided from the
provisions of laws calling for the imposition of import duties.
PARR: In two words, that would be custom-free?
GOVERNOR: Yes, sir.
PARR: Yes, sir.
MEIKLEJORN: Does that require federal action?
GOVERHOR: Federal action is relatively automatic, provided you
meet with the requirements established. The place has got to be
completely fenced or sealed off. The customs officials must be
provided by the state or a free port authority.
TUTTLE: whose decision would it finally be to establish one?
Yours? The Legislature's?
GOVERNOR: Well, to tell you the truth. it is a financial decision.
I think anybody that digs up the money to do it will be able to do it.
TUTTLE: You create an authority to operate a free port?
GOVERNOR: Yes.
TRURSTON: What money is required, Governor?
GOVERNOR: well, in dollars and cents it will vary, of course.
You've got to have a large area of land, which requires money to be
provided from somewhere. properly sealed off with buildings for
administration for port facilities, for warehousing and whatever is
called for under the circumstances.
THURSTON: No other thing is required beyond the visible facilities?
GOVERNOR: That is correct.
PRRNTIOE: Is there any possibility, Governor. that shipping in
Florida would at any time leave the way open for more than one
free port?
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>V3FINOR: I have no present intentioi1 to include anything r mer'll nature relative to overall tax revisio, IK-rDHN: A subco:!nittee has made a preliminary recommend cutting back the intengible tax to, 1 believe it's $1.-30 o'Jand rather than $2.00 a t|1Dusand, maki.g it ef Centive i .d they also recoranend strengthoning the enforcemerit of the au thi:>lt that this would be a good move? FIET[OR: The proposal I have Geen is ['or a two-atage redm .rGt c'eductinn t-irig to 1-0 mills arad the seco-.2d to 1 mill. e enough merit to deserve ec.nsideration. Tii~: In view of the rather barren state treasut'y, wilere we .ar On mal:ing up that revenue that you wotild 1cse? -VERI:CR: Well, the thesia of this propanal is that by bet' arcemer:t arid by the advertising tha.t would be sellieve!d t) Je reductiars "fou would ofCaet the losses. EDFell: Are you convinced this 2-mill t.x will bririg in mi DVERKOR: Yes, sir, I ;tm, Very definitely. ERR: Governor. in the budget sessions of the Dact two day
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situations or this kind? COVERNOR: Well, of coured from strong adninistratio: nearly the zealot for reft the Legialature, because 1 reform laws, I discover ye honest men administering i .. .e .r .r.m ..a ....y .s .. ... .......c t .ti hr ... .... y..... .n...tti Av~ryC
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area. Frankly, however, that is the first time that thought has occurred to me in connection with this cymmittee, MEIKLEJOEN: During budget considerations, Attarney General Richard Ervin suggested the possibility of a law allowing you to use the Sheriff's Bureau. I bElievE you COmmented that inventiEatOPS, of good loveatigators, were one of your greatest needs. Have you any specific recernendations on how the Governor night use the Sheriff's Bureau? D'JVEE00R: That was the first reference to that that I had heard and franicly, I haven't had time to think about it since then. MEIKLEJOHN: You haven't fornied any opinion on how it might te used? OUVEEDOR: No. This problem arises, of course: you get a istter in the mail or somebody calls you and said this-that-or-the-other 10 beitig done, and if it's true, it's somethirts you ought to be concerned with and dol11g somethirig about; and if it's not true you ought to be sat1sfiEd that IUr g get tygg;ggd ggth gne inggeti aggy y have a hard tine. We are talking in our Little Cabinet meetings of trying to make a aart of pool of the investigators that are attached to the various boardsso that When there is a lot of need in one
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,bage just as a volunteer or interested ei /RRilOR: I dodt believe I ever Isot any fe. -hority for anythinGr but it's conceivable -b -IlaEter) ]Jo, I dici:l't. {laughte Slayed relative to Coat Island, TLE: Ya'gve got three yee's and three no !EFINOR: ~ell I will have ta chacR my boo Ivietier. la that I hayE ReVet been ED910yG 216 rrmember a fee oc that kind. J.NEY: II' you were and you didn't [get pai i bookkeeper, ER-JO]s: Yes, th.t 's right News each D'' ng m'gumerita to arJvarme for the establish]
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DVERIOR: A free port is e exeript under regulation provision of laws e.all1.ng ARR: In two wordo, that CVERNOR: Yes, sir. ARR: Yes, air. EIKLEJOHi-i: Does that req DVEBli0R: Federal action eet with the requirements onpletely Cenced or sea]e provide by the state or a LYTLE: Phose decision wo ours? The LeEislaturcia? OVEIUlbR: n'ell, to tell y this anybody that digs GTTLE: You creatE an aut DVEE00TE Yes. [[IRSTON: --hat nior.ey is r DVERij0R: L'ell .in dollar Qu've got to have a large rcvided froin E.or!ewhere, p 171nistratior. for port fa 3.11ed for urder the circu -1UEST0m No other thing 3VERJ-JCB: That is correct RDITICE: la there any p, an area within the n. s and safeguards profor the imposition would be custom-t'reeuire federal action? is relatively automa established. The p d oCE. The customs Cree port authority uld it finally be to ou the truth, it is up the aloney to do i hDrity CD operate a equired, Goverror? a a:1d cents it will area of land, which roperly sealed off w cilities, Cor warehol mstances, in required beyond tl tic, provided you lace has got to be officials must be establish one? a financial decisiort. t will be able to do it, Ere nort?
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