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NEWS CONFERENCE
GOVERNOR FARRIS BRYANT
TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA
SEPTEMBER 13, 1962

NBHSMEN PARTICIPATING: Vernon Bradford, TAMPA TRIBUNE; Robert w.
Delaney, ORLANDO SENTINRLSTAR; Barbara Frye, UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL;
David Oretsch, CAPITAL NEWS BUREAU; Allen Morris, CRACKER POLITICS;
Frank Pepper, WCTV; Tom Baker, INSIDE POLITICS; Ray Starr, WRFB; Stan
Tarilton, FLORIDA BROADCAST NEWS; Rick Tuttle, MIAMI HERALD- ST.
PETERSBURG TIMES SERVICE; Martin Waldron, ST. PETERSBURG TIMES-HIANI
HERALD SERVICE; Bill Watkins, WCTV; Paul Wills, ASSOCIATED PRESS
GOVERNOR: Good afternoon. How may I serve you?

RAKER: Do you have any comment on the Georgia governor's race?
(laughter)

GOVERNOR: Governor Sanders and I (laughter) had the pleasure of being
together out in Honolulu last year and I have called to congratulate
him this morning and found him tired and elated. I am looking forward
to very warm relations as always with Georgia's Chief Executive.

FRYE: Guess you hadn't talked about chickens and citrus? (laughter)
GOVERNOR: No, but we're working on that already. As a matter of fact,
he was one of those with whom I discussed that in Honolulu and at the
time they came back to report to Governor Vandiver - you may recall
that I said at the time that I had had good results out of that -- he
was one of those who thought that our position was well taken. And I
think he still does. We've invited him down to the Southern Governors'
Conference on the, I think, reasonable assumption that he will be
elected, and expect there to further cement relations.

PEPPER: Governor Bryant, do you support the growing demands around

the country for a blockade of Cuba?

GOVERNOR: Yes, sir. Ybu say a blockade of Cuba -- to my lay mind that
aeema a very practical step to take. I have represented to Ambassador
Morrison and to the President my feelings that affirmative, effective
action to eliminate the Castro threat should be taken. I thought it
would be presumptious for me with.my limited knowledge to suggest the
particular measures that would be best designed to do that.

FEPPER: Along that same line, sir, are you disturbed any about not
enough security of the lower coast -- Key west, Miami?

GOVERNOR: I have no reason to be at this time. It's obvious that it

would be easily possible for one or more persons to do sabotage in the

area, but perhaps -- and I say perhaps because I don't know -- to put

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that it will strengthen and be an extension of our existing
institutions, in my opinion. we are doing the same sort of thing in
our thinking that was done prior to this time when Florida Atlantic
University was established. Here for the first time in the nation
is a Junior and senior level college. Well, now I am thinking in
terms of instruction at the graduate level ...how can Florida best
serve the need, meet the cpprrtunity, at a cost it can pay, with
mechanisms that will work in this area?

FRYE: That could take in a new institution or the extension of an
existing institution?

GOVERNOR: It would depend upon what the educational experts told
us was necessary to do. Florida has made such great progress with
the resources it has, it seems to me, because it has done long-
range studies and then followed those studies. These have been
invaluable to us and I think we ought to continue doing that. The
only thing different right now is I want to do a little faster
studying than we have done before.

DELANEY: Is this possibility of a privately built university being
leased to the state ~- is this in such form that a proposal has
been made by a company to do this?

GOVERNOR: Yes, sir.

DELANEY: Is this a firm prepossl?

GOVERNOR: Well, I don't have a deposit, but it was a flat,
categorical proposal by an outfit capable of following through.
FRYE: Would you say that it was this General Electric deal in Daytona?
GOVERNOR: I don't want to say, because I would start denying who
it is until you boiled it down, but it is not.

GRETSCR: Would this outfit be singular or plural?

GOVERNOR: Yes. (laughter)

DELANEY: In a broad sense would this be someone who is vitally
interested in an activity centering around Cape Canaveral?
GOVERNOR: I would rather not refine the description any more.
FRYE: Well, you did not restrict the Board of Control. I mean you

Just said give us a plan?

GOVERNOR: Right.
WILLS: Is this a profit-making company that has offered to build

and lease to us a university?

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GOVERNOR: Yes. However, it doesn't want to make a profit out of

the university. It Just wants its money back.

WILLS: Just its money back -- then it is not a profit-making

venture with this company I take it?

GOVERNOR: Yes and no.

DELANEY: would the profit making be as a result of having trained
people?

GOVERNOR: Partly, and peripheral profits.

HALDRON: He is not going to tell you before it comes in.

DELANEY: No, I know that.

comma: That's right. (laughter)

NALDRON: Governor, there was a report here in the Capitol last week
GOVERNOR: That fellow leaped to a conclusion there in a hurry.
(laughter)

HALDRON: About forty minutes ago. (laughter) that your pay as you
use plan envisions something like $200 million is that correct?
GOVERNOR: There is no figure on it, but it doesn't.

HALDRON: Not that large?

GOVERNOR: No, I had not that sort of figure in mind.

PRYE: What figure did you have in mind?

GOVERNOR: It depends upon what our financial possibilities are.

I don't want to issue revenue certificates and then hope that there

is someplace they can be paid for later on. I think that if we

issue any revenue certificates to meet this educational need, we must
have and be able to point to a source. For instance, and I use it as
a for instance, somebody mentioned it to me yesterday and it is a good
one although it was done by constitutional amendment: the Rotor
Vehicle license taxes support revenue certificates with which we have
funded our Minimum Foundation obligations -- capital outlay. And
probably the next Legislature will be asked to extend the term of
that obligation because we have used up so much of it now that less
and less money can be raised on the remaining obligated term. But
while not intending to ask for a constitutional amendment relative to

this, this is the same kind of thing. You take an assured source and

you pour it into a specific need.

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FRYE: Do you have a source in mind?

GOVERNOR: Yes, maam.

FRYB: What is it?

GOVERNOR: I am not prepared to say, though.

WALDRON: You said specific - do you mean in every instance or in
general parts or specific purposes?

GOVERNOR: In a general part.

BAKER: Governor, do you think that the next governor might have a
little less mandate on how to spend this money that we are now
spending in revenue bonds for capital outlay as he would for road
building?

GOVERNOR: Well, of course, if it were illegal I wouldn't do it. Now,
I am not supposed to save all the money that comes in for him Just
because he will have a way he can spend it. That's not the
proposition at all. But I am supposed to administer the government

or Florida and make recommendations to the Legislature within the
confines of the statutes and Constitution. This I will do, and I will
expect the next governor to do the same thing.

PRYE: Is it possible that this revenue source that you have in mind
is a new source or is it an existing source?

GOVERNOR: I would rather not discuss it.

WILLS: Do you have in mind building any other type or institutions

than universities with these revenue bonds?

GOVERNOR: I had not extended my thinking -- but if we are able to
finance university building with this type or financing it ought to
relieve enough pressure on general revenue to enable us to take care
or all our other obligations on the pay as you go basis.

WALDRON: Well, as a matter or fact, the university system is the
only one in the state now in desperate need of building isn't it?
GOVERNOR: We are in pretty good shape, as a matter of fact, elsewhere.
RAKER: Do you consider that revenue bonds, even though they are
retired by the pledged income from one source or another, for this
reason provide less of a drain or set up less of a block of the
extension or state credit in other directions -- even though they may
be revenue bands do you not feel they still pledge the faith and
credit of the state?

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GOZERNOR: I think that you have to consider the total picture on
these things. Obviously you can go overboard in anything. You can
go overboard on pay as you go. Your fiscal picture must be in
balance. As a former accountant I would say current assets and
liabilities, your long range assets and obligations have to be in
balance. You have got to have money coming in in time to pay the
obligations that you have got to meet. I think, for example, that
term borrowing for business is a good method of financing. But not
if you go too far with it.
WALDRON: I don't have anybody specifically in mind, but has anybody
mentioned to you the possibility that you might be succeeded in
office by a governor who is a real expert at this bond financing?
(laughter)
RAKBR: Do you think that might destroy the balance?
GOVERNOR: I don't know what he is talking about. (laughter)
TUTTLE: On another subject, Governor, Mr. Jarrard seems to have a
sudden aversion to supplementing some of his staff's salaries with

private funds. Do you share that new attitude?

GOVERNOR: I don't feel any urge. No I have satisfied all the urges
I have in that direction.

Are there further questions?

DELANEY: Governor, one of your sharp-eyed constituents inquired
yesterday as to whether you believed that safety belts in motor
vehicles are desirable, after observing that there were none in

your limousine.

GOVERNOR: I do.

DELANEY: Are you going to put them in?

GOVERNOR: I ought to. (laughter) I should.

EVANS: You might point out on that that arrangements had been made
at the time the Jaycees had their seatbelt drive to have then
installed in the limousine. It turned out that you were not
available then. We have held off on that until the next drive,
because they wanted to capitalize on the publicity that would come

installing them in the car. Now. he's risking his neck in this

interim in order to effectively promote them state-wide for all
citizens. (laughter)

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EELANEY: If you don't give him a pay raise for that!
FRYE: You can't afford to send him to Cuba.
GOVERNOR: You said it even better than I could have. (laughter)
WILLS: I want to go back to the Board of Control feasibility study.
Have you told them when you want that completed by?
GOVERNOR: No, sir.
HILLS: Just hurry?
GOVERNOR: Yes. sir.
DELANEY: Have you got them in your private car?
GOVERNOR: In the Highway Patrol furnished oar, yes.
DELANEY: Do you wear them?
GOVERNOR: I don't ride in it much. Not very often.
DELANEY: One of the big problems is getting people to wear them?
GOVERNOR: That's correct. I realize that it is no excuse. Actually
I don't travel very much out of the city in an automobile, and
usually you are going from here to the few blocks away.....
FRYE: Did you use one in Daytona Beach?
GOVERNOR: Yes, I used one at Daytona.
WILLS: How fast did you go?
GOVERNOR: Fast enough to stay on that #5 degree bank.
WILLS: That's an 80 ~- a minimum of 80, isn't it?
GOVERNOR: I believe it is a minimum of 90.
VILLS: Did you crack the sound barrier?
GOVERNOR: I think we went about 120.
DELANEY: What did you ride in?
GOVERNOR: Actually you have about five lanes and it is so
beautifully engineered that I'm told that others are able to release
the car and it will Just drive itself around there. (laughter)
DELANEY: That's what our driver did. (laughter)

RAKER: Governor, as a matter of information, are you aware that 70
percent of the fatalities occur within 25 miles of home and under no

miles an hour?

GOVERNOR: No, but I don't know that that particularly proves
anything because I imagine by far the greatest percentage of traffic

is within a few miles of home.

RAKER: well, this is true.
GOVERNOR: But I think your point is well taken. I ought to be using
them all the time and I will try to do better. Thank you very much.

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up the safeguard against this possibility would be more expensive than
the damage that might be wrought should it begin. Now should there be
any evidence of sabotage beginning, or if there is evidence now, that
would be a different matter. It is sort or liking chasing mosquitoes
-- when you get them down to about one per cent or normal incidence,
to get rid of that last one per cent is probably more difficult than
getting rid of the first 99 per cent. And it might be that way with
sabotage, I Just don't know.

FRYB: Did you say that safeguards would be more damaging?

GOVERNOR: No, expensive.

PRYE: In dollars?

GOVERNOR: Yes, maam.

STARR: Along with Franks statement, do you feel that our state Civil
Defense system is adequate to handle anything that might happen?
GOVERNOR: No, of course not. I think that our state Civil Defense
system is probably one or the best, if not the best, in the Nation.

we are holding in Miami -- what date is that seminar, John?

EVANS: The 213:, I believe. (later check showed this to be the 19th)
GOVERNOR: Of September? On the 19th of September a seminar on
industrial civil defense.will be held in Miami, which is designed both
to minimize the effect or any nuclear onslaught on the one hand, and
to expedite and insure proper recovery from it or other destruction

on the other.

FRYE: Have you talked to President Kennedy about this, or have you
written him?

GOVERNOR: I have written him, yes, ma'am.

BAKER: Do you have any feeling one way or the other with regard to
allegations that Cuban counter-revolutionaries are training and being
based in South Florida?

GOVERNOR: I have no knowledge of that at all.

WILLS: Did you suggest the blockade in your letter to the President?
GOVERNOR: No, sir, I did not.

WILLS: Oh, it was a general

TUTTLE: Do you have any objections to counter-revolutionaries being

trained and based in Florida?

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GOVERNOR: No. In fact I kind of like it.
DELANEY: Would you lend the sympathy or support or the Governor's
office to such activity?
GOVERNOR: You mean Join em? (laughter)
DELANEY: Maybe you should send John. (laughter)
GOVERNOR: Well, at least if we sent John we would get a good story

back on it. (laughter)

MORRIS: The balloon corps. (laughter)

BAKER: He could write "Dear John" letters back.

FRYE: You then see no reason right now for you to be particularly
alarmed about Florida's situation?

GOVERNOR: As distinguished from the rest of the Nation, no. I think
that the only way that Florida could be more dangerously situated,

as far as Cuba is concerned, than the rest of the Nation, would be
for Russia or the Cubans to try to take some provocative action to
provoke us into war. Because if their action is not purely provocative
then, of course, any military actions would not be restricted to
Florida in any sense. And I cannot conceive at the present time of
the Communists trying to provoke war in the Caribbean with us.
DELANEY: Do you think Cuba is entirely in the hands or the Communists
now, GovernOr?

GOVERNOR: Mr. Delaney, I have nothing but a lay opinion and my lay
opinion is that it is.

DELANEY: You don't think Castro is in the control that he was, say,
two years ago?

GOVERNOR: Well, I think he's communist completely.

DELANEY: Well, when I say...

GOVERNOR: I don't mean Marxist, I mean communist.

DELRNEY: I mean do you think it is in the hands of the Russian
Communists, rather than the Cuban Communists?

GOVERNOR: I can't make that distinction, I Just don't know.

FRYE: Governor, have all of the reports of the organization of
campaigns against this reapportionment proposal done anything to

change your mind on it -- the support of it?
GOVERNOR: No. I think most or these people are Just taking a

posture for local consumption.

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FREE: You don't think they really intend to wage a campaign?
GOVERNOR: Oh, they will probably make an effort, but I don't think
they have any allusions or success. I think in some of the populous
counties where this has been used as a political issue for so long
that representatives feel that politically it is a better posture
to strike.
moan: (unintelligible)
GOVERNOR: Well, to me it seems that when the Legislature has submitted
a plan, the courts have approved it, and the administration has
endorsed it, where else is there to go? Here you have a plan that I
am sure nobody by themselves would draft. But that's the democratic
process and it was so melded that it has secured the approval or
endorsement of each of the three branches or government. I am a little
bit surprised at those who cried out for intervention of the courts
on the one hand, and who now go to such extremes to say: "Well now
that they have intervened and pronounced, they still don't agree
with us, so it is still a bad deal. I don't know who is to design
a reapportionment plan if the Legislature or the courts and the
administration aren't. We might turn it over to a chamber of commerce
somewhere and they might do a better Job, but it wouldn't be a very
democratic process.
anE: Well, yon don't think then that the big counties are going
to defeat this proposal?
GOVERNOR: I rather think that most of them will support it. I think
the desires of the people of Florida, now that this plan has been
presented, is to get this issue behind them. I think there is going
to be quite a groundswell of "let's go." I talked the other day to
one of the members of one of the large county delegations who is
going to oppose this and he said to me: "I have had three calls
recently from citizens who said to me 'why are you fighting
reapportionment? And I had to explain to them: 'Oh, I am not
fighting reapportionment, I Just want better reapportionment.'" But in
the minds of the people, and I think they have analyzed it right,
they have got reapportionment now and those who fight this reapportion-
ment are not going to be doing themselves any great service, nor

their counties nOr the state.

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BAKER: Again, you don't anticipate any problems -- you think it will
pass easily?

GOVERNOR: I think it will pass by a good margin, let me put it that
way. I am sure that those who want to see this passed, who want to
see the issue settled, and who believe in the constitutional forms
of government which have initiated and approved this, will band
together to see that it is done.

FRYE: Have you gotten any invitations yet to speak for it?
GOVERNOR: Yes, ma'am, I have.

FRYE: Have you accepted them cr.....

GOVERNOR: I think I have accepted two. I believe I accepted one
television invitation -- it may be a tentative acceptance, I don't
recall -- and I have discussed and made up my mind, whether I have
actually accepted or not, to accept another invitation.

ERIE: Are these all down in the lower east coast?

GOVERNOR: Yes, ma'am. I will speak not solely on this subject
matter, but on this as one of the key matters that I will discuss

in both those cases.

DELANEY: You said "yes ma'am" to a location, but I don't know what
the location was.

GOVERNOR: Its on your left and one seat forward. (laughter) Oh,
I'm sorry. You said I said yes ma'am to a location but you didn't
know where the location was. (laughter)

DELANEY: Would you tell us what location you said yes ma'am to?
GOVERNOR: I think one or the locations was in Orlando and I forget

where the other one is right now.

PRYE: Are they soon? Are they in October?

GOVERNOR: October, I would guess.

STARR: Governor, speaking of invitations, the Democrats in Texas
seem to be very miffed at President Kennedy and his tour out there.
I take it that even though he did stop very briefly in Florida at
Cape Canaveral, that you were not invited. Or were you, air, to 30
down and be with them on this tour?

GOVERNOR: I was not.

STARR: You are not miffed with them?

GOVERNOR: On the centrary. I see no reason for me to run and meet

him at every plane or train, especially when he is on a tour.

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MORRIS: What reaction have you had, if any, on.your "pay as you use"
plan for capital betterment?
GOVERNOR: Well, I am having the same experience that I had the last
time you all wrote my political obituary. (laughter) Legislators
are apparently telling the press "were against it," but when they
talk to me they say, "This makes a lot of sense." Now I don't know,
of course, but I suspect that it is somewhat in the manner of
presentation. If you come up to them and say, "You are not for this

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foolish plan, are you, (laughter) they say, "Of course not. But
that isn't Just the way I present it. (laughter)

HALDRON: They all told me they were against it generally, but might
be for it specifically.

GOVERNOR: Thats a very fair and objective response.

HILLS: Do you have any comment on Secretary of State Adams' comment
on it?

GOVERNOR: He didn't talk... He referred to the one that we are now
building universities under.

mus: Well, do you have any comment on that? He called it "fiscal
folly," I believe.

GOVERNOR: Well, there were certain inaccuracies or areas of disagree-
ment with the Secretary. First of all, I do think that if we are
going to do bookkeeping we ought to do double entry. Which is to

say, that while there may be interest on the one hand, on the other
hand there is that saving the comes from building now rather than,

if the history of the last century is any guide, later when it is much
more expensive. I have an idea that if we wait 20 years to build
these buildings, making the end of the issue instead of the beginning
of it, it will cost more than principle and interest at that time to
do it. Secondly, I want to call your attention to something that
makes a great difference to me -- this is a productive type facility.
When we build the prisons, we operate a prison, people are confined,
and at the end of the year, fine, we have done the Job and now how
much will it cost next year. But from universities there is a yield,

there is a product, and I think that what we will produce with this

product will so far exceed the few dollars of interest involved that

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it won't be comparable at all. I think, for instance, that if I
operate this office and I spend twice as much as I spent last year,
and at the and of that time all I have done is operate the office,
what could I show for that money -- which would all be gone? For
instance, in the Secretary of States Office -- his budget has
increased from a quarter or a million dollars to three-quarters of a
million dollars in the last six years. And at the end of the year ~-
I am sure that he is doing a better Job every year, but the money is
gone. When we build universities we have got something that is there
-- it is there for each of the years that follow, for 20, or 30, or
50, and it is producing every year. And I think this is the difference
o- to spend money and have nothing to show for it is fiscal folly;
to spend money and to have an investment which is producing an annual
return is not, in my Judgment, anything but good business sense.
BAKER: Do you think bonds is the best way to finance capital
outlay?
GOVERNOR: I think the best way to finance capital outlay is cash,
if youve got it.
RAKER: would you prefer, in your own mind then, that the Legislature
approve a ~-
GOVERNOR: Wait a minute No. I will answer that before you ask it.
It all depends. I don't want to impose a burden on people tomorrow
to pay for the expense of operating government today, but neither
do I want to impose an expense on people today to pay for operating
of government tomorrow. It seems to me that if we can devise within
reasonable limits, because you can get out of balance in anything ,
if you can devise a system under which the people of each year,
each decade, each generation can make their own contribution then
it seems to me that they can pay their own way as it were - payas-
they-use. This is the more rational approach. Particularly
is this so if a revenue issue can be tied to a source of revenue

which will relatively automatically pour in year after year to pay

as you use. I think the illustration of our revenue issue for

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university buildings, where money is taken from building fees and
poured annually into a pot from which buildings are paid for, is a
very wise and fiscally sound method of paying as you use. Does that

answer your question?

RAKER: It does, but let me ask you another question, along what
seems to me to be some of these lines: There was a great hue and
cry -~ I have probably misused the term -- at the beginning of this
administration because the Collins Road Board had spent a great

deal of money that this administration felt belonged in this adminis-
tration and they were building roads and providing the roads that
people were riding upon all this time. Now is there a difference

in your philosophy between these two things?

GOVERNOR: They were violating the law. The Legislature had passed
a law saying that they should retain in the State Treasury a certain
percentage of outstanding obligations. They not only didn't have
that percentage in the Treasury, but they had an actual deficit.
Now, I never complained that this was fiscal folly. I did say it was
a violation of the law, and when I became Governor we stopped it.
Now that we have caught up and are in compliance with the law, which
has been modified on the one hand, and have money in the bank on

the other hand, we are moving ahead as rapidly as we can. It is my
purpose, though, at the end of this administration to leave us in a
position where we will be in compliance with the law, and with

sound fiscal practices. There are several reasons for that: another
governor will be elected and he will come with a fresh mandate from
the people as to what they want done. Now I think that I had one,
but it will be four years old. There will be new conditions, there
will be new ideas and a new governor will have been around talking
with thousands of people and he will know what the people in this
democracy want. And I want to leave him in a position where he can
put in his mandates, Just as I should have been in a position to put
in the mandate from the people in 1961.

DELANEY: Do you have anybody in mind for that Job?

GOVERNOR: well, let me say this, Mrs. Bryant is not going to run.
(laughter)

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DEIANEY: Governor, last week when you were talking about this pay
as you go plan, you spoke about the possibility of a university
being built by private interests and leased to the state.

GOVEREOR: Yes.
DELAKEY: Have you learned any more about that than you knew last

week?

GOVERNOR: I have asked the Board or Control to begin on a rush
basis a study of this whole problem or expansion of our university
system in the area or immediate need and opportunity; to wit,
graduate instruc:icn and research in the science and science-
related areas ~ hydrospace, data processing, space oriented physics,

electronics, et cetera.

FRYE: You mean to make some recommendations that you can use in
the '63 Legislature?

GOVERNOR: Correct. I am very anxious to proceed at full speed on
this, but there are several things that we must be careful to do:
First of all, whatever we do must be consistent with the continued

improvement of our existing institutions, and that is so because it

will take us umpty bump years -- many many-- years to achieve with a
new institution, regardless of how much money is available, the
accreditation and the reputation of our existing institutions.
Secondly, I think that we ought to proceed with a thought in mind
that whatever we do ought to utilize the facilities of our existing
graduate institutions in the same sense that we are using them
through the Institute of Continuing Studies for under-graduate
education and to some degree for graduate education at this time.
FRYE: What did you say to the Board to guide them, in telling the
Board you wanted this study? Did you say on an entirely new
institution?

GOVERNOR: No, ma'am, I have asked them to go into the areas of
imminent and obvious need, not restricting it to that, but focusing
there and, in my mind, that covers quite a range of territory, and
to make studies of needs and opportunities and costs and mechanics.
This last is very, very important, because if we are to establish,
as we may be ready to do, any type or graduate activity any place away

from our two existing institutions, it has got to be done in such a way




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