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VOL. CIV.


aftidait


iI~a~ette


PUBLISHED BY AUTHORITY


BRIDGETOWN, BARBADOS, 17TH APRIL, 1969


TABLE OF CONTENTS
Gazette Notices
Acting Appointments:
L. L. Austin as Senior Assistant Secretary,
Ministry of Agriculture, Labour and
National Insurance....................... 340
S. O. Lorde as Education Officer, Ministry of
of Education............................. 341
Appointments:
V. C. Alleyne as Senior Assistant Secretary,
Ministry of Communications and Works 339
W. E. Burke as Senior Assistant Secretary,
Ministry of External Affairs............ 339
D. C. T. Grannum as Senior Assistant
Secretary, Ministry of Finance............. 339
Appointments to the posts of Head Teacher:
Mrs. V. Watkins; Mr. Sargeant, Mr. G. L. Archer 339
Consular: Peter De Verteville as Honorary Consul
for Austria at Bridgetown........................ 340
Customs Sale on Thursday, 22nd May, 1969. 340,345-361
Income Tax Notice (Arrears of Tax) ................ 345-346
In the Supreme Court:.
Bayley vs Herbert; Clarke vs Jones......... 343, 341
Edwards vs Smith et al; Jules vs Brathwaite 314, 343
Power vs Cheltenham; Power vs Gilkes..... 342
Skinner vs De Peiza.............................. 344
Licensing of Air Services (5).......................... 349-353
Probate Advertisements dated 5th and
11th April, 1969................................... 347-348
Resignation:
Dennis Morgan, Clerical Officer............... 341
Te mporary appointment of Ministers................. 340

Senate Debates for 1st, 14th, 21st September and
23rd November, 1967.
Legal Supplement
S.I. 1969 No. 65: Customs Act, 1962 (1962-18) re General
Assembly of the Church of God in Barbados (Incorpora-
tion) Act, 1961 approved to receive and distribute articles
S.I. 1969 No. 66: Motor Vehicles and Road Traffic Regu-
lations re Rally Club for 19th and 20th
April, 1969
Act 1969-15: Barbados Association
Children Act,\1968.


NOTICE NO. 274
GOVERNMENT NOTICES
Appointments
V. C. Alleyne, Assistant Secretary, Ministry
External Affairs, has been appointed as Senior
Assistant Secretary, Ministry of Communications
and Works, with effect from 1st April, 1969.

D. C. T. Grannum, Assistant Commissioner,
Inland Revenue Department, has been appointed as
Senior Assistant Secretary, Ministry of Finarice,
with effect from 1st April, 1969.

W. E. Burke, Assistant Secretary, Ministryof
Education, has been appointed as Senior Assistant
Secretary, Ministry of External Affairs, with effect
from 1st April, 1969.

(M.P. PSC. 18)


The following persons have been appointed to
the posts of Head Teacher with effect from 1st
March, 1969:-


Mrs. V. Watkins


St. Bartholomews Girls'


Mr. H. Sargeant Ebenezer Primary
Mr. G. L. Archer Selah Primary


(M.P. 2540/8 Vol. III)


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GOVERNMENT NOTICES

Acting Appointments

F. Ward, Specialist, Queen Elizabeth Hospital,

has been appointed to act as Senior Surgeon
Specialist, with effect from 1st March, 1969 to
31st May, 1969.

(M.P. 443/63/1 Vol. II)

A. Edghill has been appointed to act as Surgeon

Specialist, Queen Elizabeth Hospital with effect
from 1st March, to 31st May, 1969.
(M.P. 443/63/1 Vol. II)


K. A. Jordan, Senior Personnel Officer, has

been appointed to act as Senior Assistant Secetary,
Ministry of Communications and Works, with effect
from 1st to 30th April, 1969.

(M.P. 1515/39/20/9/T2)

L. L. Austin, Assistant Secretary, Ministry of

Agriculture, Labour and National Insurance, has
been appointed to act as SeniorAssistant Secretary
Ministry of Agriculture Labour and National In-

surance with effect from 1st April, 1969.

(M.P. PSC. 18)


Consular


The Exequatur empowering Mr. Peter
DeVerteville to act as Honorary Consul forAustria
at Bridgetown, Barbados received Her Majesty's

signature on 2nd April, 1969.


Customs Notice

Notice is hereby given in pursuance of Section
176(2) of the Customs Act, 1962 that an Auction
will be held at the Customs House, the Wharf at

noon on Thursday, 22nd May, 1969.


Temporary Appointments of Ministers

In pursuant of sections 67 and 68 of the Con-
stitution of Barbados His Excellency the Governor-
General has been pleased to make the following
appointments consequent on the absence from
Barbados of the Rt. Honourable E. W. Barrow,
M.P., in respect of the periods indicated:-


(i) Senator The Honourable
P.M. Greaves to perform the

functions of Min-

ister of Finance

duringthe period
4th to 10thApril,
1969.


(ii) The Honourable
C. E. Talma, M.P. to perform the

functions of
Prime Minister

and of Minister of
External Affairs
during the period

7th to 10th April,
1969.


(M.P. 8682/18 Vol. III)


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April 17, 1969


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ApiI 17, 1I I IOI A


GOVERNMENT NOTICES

Acting Appointment

S. 0. Lorde, Head Teacher, has been ap-
pointed to act as Education Officer, Ministry
of Education, with effect from 1st September,
1968 until further notice.

(M.P. 1515/39/13/9/227)


Resignation

Dennis Morgan, Clerical Officer, Minis-
try of Health & Community Development, has
resigned from the Public Service with effect
from 31st March, 1969.

(P.F. P. 9068)


NOTICE NO. 275


IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Court

No. 605 of 1968

GEORGE DENIS CLARKE: Plaintiff

CLIVISTON JONES: Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale at the Registration Office on the
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m.-and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each suc-
ceeding Friday at 2 p.m. until sold.


PROPERTY: ALL THAT certain piece or
parcel of land marked "A14" on a plan of
two acres 1 rood 34 3/10 perches of land
certified on the thirteenth day of July, one
thousand nine hundred and thirty-six by F, L.
Gibbons, Sworn Surveyor, as amended on the
twenty-eight day of March, one thousand nine
hundred and fifty-seven by J. R. Peterkin,
Sworn Surveyor, situate at Maxwell in the
parish of Christ Church, in this Island con-
taining by admeasurement five thousand five
hundred and fifty-four square feet or there-
abouts (in which area is included a strip of
land six feet wide over which the owners of
the remaininglots on the said plan have rights
of way) Butting and Bounding on other lands of
the said Cliviston Jones being the lot marked
"A15" onthe said planon lands now or lateof
C. H. T. Grannum on the lot marked "A13"
onthe said plan and on the public road leading
to Cane Vale and to Top Rock or however else
the same may butt and bound Together with the
message or dwellinghouse and all and singu-
lar other the buildings and erections on the
said land erected and built standing and being
with the appurtenances.

UPSET PRICES: $12,000.00

Dated this 2nd day of April, 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


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April 17, 1969








. ...OFFICIAL GAZETTEAp .


NOTICE NO. 276


IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Ccurt

No. 617 of 1968

ORVILLE ARTHUR POWER: Plaintiff

AMBROSE CHELTENHAM: Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale at the Registration Office on the
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m. and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each suc-
ceeding Friday at 2 p.m. until sold.

PROPERTY: ALL THATcertain piece or
parcel of land situate at Baywoods in the par-
ish of Saint James in this Island containing by
admeasurement twenty nine thousand five hun-
dred and ninety six square feet or therea-
abouts abutting and bounding on lands of one
Moore on lands of Water Hall Plantation
on lands of one Thorne and two roads form-
ing a right of way or however else the same
may abut and bound.

UPSET PRICE: $1,000.00
Dated this 2nd day of April 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


NOTICE NO. 277


IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Ccurt

No. 600 of 1968

ORVILLE ARTHUR POWER: Plaintiff

DAPHNE GILKES: Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale at the Registration Office on the
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m. and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each suc-
ceeding Friday at 2 p.m. until sold.

PROPERTY: ALL THATcertainpiece or
parcel of land situate at Shermans in the par-
ish of Saint Peter in this Island containing by
admeasurement forty six thousand four hun-
dred and ninety eight square feet or there-
abouts, Abutting and bounding on lands cf
Edna Forde on lands of K. Briggs on lands of
one Babb on two sides on lands of one Forde
and on a road eight feet wide or however else
the same may abut and bound.

UPSET PRICE: $3,300.00

Dated this 2nd day of April, 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


April 17, 41960


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NOTICE NO, 278

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Court

No, 619 of 1968

EDMUND ALEXANDER BAYLEY: Plaintiff

ARTHUR DRAYTON HERBERT: Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale the at Registration Office on the
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m. and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each suc-
ceeding Friday at 2 p.m. unil sold.

PROPERTY: ALL THAT certain piece
or parcel of land situate at Welches in the
parish of Christ Church and Island aforesaid
containing by admeasurement one rood twenty
perches or thereabouts abutting and bound-
ing on lands formerly of E. F. Skeene but now
of the estate of Dr. T. A. Herbert deceased
on lands formerly of Erskine E. Sealy but
now of the estate of Dr. T. A. Herbert de-
ceasedon other lands of the estate of Dr. T. A.
Herbert deceased being a private road and on
lands now or late of Martha Oughterson or
however else the same may abut and bound.

UPSET PRICE: $15,000.00
Dated this 2nd day of April 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


NOTICE NO, 279


IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Court

No. 621 of 1968

ASQUITH PHILIP ALPHEGE JULES:
Plaintiff
EMMERSON CLIVE BRATHWAITE:
Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale at the Registration Office onthe
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m. and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each succeed-
ing Friday at 2 p.m. unil sold.

PROPERTY: ALL THAT certain piece or
parcel of land situate at Foul Bay in the par-
ish of Saint Philip and Island aforesaid con-
taining by admeasurement ten thousand six
hundred and twenty seven square feet or
thereabouts abutting and bounding on lands
now or late of Estelle Fields on lands now or
late of Carol Fields on lands now or late of
Eric Moseley on lands formerly of Joan
Williams but now of Doctor Louis Ward or
however else the same may abut and bound.

UPSET PRICE: $1,100.00
Dated this 2nd day of April 1969.

C, A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


April 17. ,1969


OFFICIAL GAZETTE








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NOTICE NO. 280

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Court

No. 622 of 1968

LORTON EGBERT EDWARDS: Plaintiff

PHYLLIS ADELINE SMITH et al:

Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale at the Registration Office on the
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m. and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each suc-
ceeding Friday at 2 p.m. until sold.

PROPERTY: ALL THAT certain piece or
parcel of land (formerly part of a larger area
of land containing by admeasurement two
roods or thereabouts) situate at Cliff Cottage
in the parish of Saint John and Island aforesaid
containing by admeasurement twenty perches
or thereabouts abutting and bounding on lands
of the estate of J. Cox deceased on lands of
Lilian Adina Moore (on two sides) and on a
road in common or however else the same
-
may abut and bound and ALL THAT certain
piece or parcel of land (formerly part of a
larger area of land containing by admeasure-
ment two roods or thereabouts) situate at
Cliff Cottage in the parish of Saint John and
Island aforesaid containing by admeasurement
one rood twenty perches or thereabouts abutt-
ing and bounding on lands of A. Holder and of
a place called Quintynes on lands of the estate
of J. Cox deceased and Phyllis Adeline Smith
and a road in common or however else the
same may abut and bound.

UPSET PRICES: $750.00 (2) $1,800.00


Dated this 2nd day of April 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


NOTICE NO. 281

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF JUDICATURE

High Court

No. 609 of 1969

ST. ALBAN O'BRIAN SKINNER: Plaintiff

EDMUND DePEIZA: Defendant

The undermentioned property will be set
up for sale at the Registration Office on the
9th day of May 1969 at 2 p.m. and if not then
sold it will be set up for sale on each suc-
ceeding Friday at 2 p.m. until sold.

PROPERTY: ALL THAT certain piece or
parcel of land situate at Fustic in the parish
of Saint Lucy and Island aforesaid containing
by admeasurement 1 acre 19.823 perches or
thereabouts abutting and bounding on lands of
one Swane, on lands of H. St. John, on lands of
R. Cadogan and on lands of Vagn Riis-Hansen
or however else the same may abut and bound
and All that certain piece or parcel of land
situate at Fustic in the parish of Saint Lucy

and Island aforesaid containing by admeasure-
ment 3 roods 11.78 perches or thereabouts
abutting and bounding on lands of one, Swane,
on lands of R. Cadogan, on lands of one
St. John and on a private road leading to the
public road or however else the same may
abut and bound.

UPSET PRICE: $1,000.00 (2) $750.00

Dated this 2nd day of April 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar of the Supreme Court.


OFFICIAL GAZETTE


April 17, 41869










INCOME TAX NOTICE

ARREARS OF TAX

There are many taxpayers on the delinquent list and it is intended to obtain
immediate collection of unpaid taxes by maintaining a firm policy of collection and using
for this purpose the processes provided by the Income Tax Act 1968.

2. Scores of reminders have been issued to defaulters and there is no intention
of issuing further reminders to those who have disregarded them. Collection will now be
made by way of GARNISHMENT. Those persons in arrears with tax payments are re-
quested to call immediately and pay arrears due, thus avoiding collection through their
employers or other persons.

3. For the information of all concerned the Section of the Income Tax Act 1968
providing for unpaid tax certificates and Garnishment are as set forth:-

W. A. GITTENS
Commissioner of Inland Revnue.
2nd April, 1969.

Section 72. (1) "An amount payable by a person under this Act that has remained
unpaid for a period of 30 days may be certified in relation to that
person by the Commissioner in a certificate called an unpaid tax
certificate.

(2) An unpaid tax certificate may be filed by the Commissioner inthe
High Court or in the Magistrate's Court of District "A" and shall be
registered in the Court in which it is filed and after the expiry of
seven days after it is filed and registered has the same force and ef-
fect as a judgement of the Court in which it is registered in favour
of the Crown against the person named in the certificate for the
amount specified in the certificate plus

(a) interest theron as provided in this Act until the date ofpay-
ment; and
(b) the reasonable costs and charges attendant upon the registra-
tion of the certificate;
and all proceedings may be taken on the certificate and it may be en-
forced as if it is a judgement of the Court in which it is registered.

3. Where an unpaid tax certificate is filed by the Commissioner in the
High Court or in the Magistrate's Court of District "A" theCom-
missioner shall forthwith deliver a copy of the unpaid tax certificate to
the person to whom the unpaid tax certificate relates and if the


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346 I L i i L .-t.. ,, '-707

INCOME TAX NOTICE Cmtinued

copy of the unpaid tax certificate is not so delivered within 7 days of
the filing then subsection (2) ceases to have effect with respect to
that unpaid tax certificate.

Section 73. (1) Where the Commissioner believes that any person is indebted to or
liable to make a payment to another person and that other persons
indebted to the Crown under this Act, the Commissioner may deliver
t3 the first mentioned person a demand for payment stating the name
of the person indebted to the Crown and the amount of the debt to the
Crown including the rate of interest thereon, and where that first
mentioned person is the employer of the person indebted to the Crown
the amount demanded for each pay period expressed either as a
dollar amount or a percentage of renumeration.

(2) Every person who receives a demand for payment under subsection
(1) relating to one of his employees shall pay to the Commissioner at
the same time as he would pay that employee the amount demanded by
the Commissioner or the amount of the employee's indebtedness to
the Crown, whichever is lesser, and shall continue to do so on each
occasion that the employee is entitled to be paid until the employee's
indebtedness to the Crown is satisfied.

(3) Every person who receives a demand for payment under subsection
(1) relating to some person other than one of his employees shall, if
he is indebted to or liable to make a payment to that other person,:
pay to the Commissioner the amount of his indebtedness or the
amount which he is liable to pay to that person or the amount of that
person's indebtedness to the Crown, whichever, is the lesser.

(4) Every person who has discharged any liability to a person indebted to
the Crown under this Act after receiving a demand for payment un-
der subsection (1) without complying with subsection (2) or (3) is
liable to pay to the Crown an amount equal to the liability discharged
of which he was required under subsections (2) or (3) to pay the
Commissioner, whichever is the lesser.

(5) The payment of any amount to the Commissioner under subsections
(2) or (3) operates as a discharge of any liability of the person mak-
ing the payment to the person to whom the payment, would but for
this section, have been paid, to the extent of the amount paid to the
Commissioner.

(6) This section is effective notwithstanding the Protection. of Wages
Act, 1951."


A ril 17 1


OFFICIAL GAZETTE











PROBATE ADVERTISEMENTS

PUBLIC NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that applications have been made
for the following Grants of Probate and Administration namely :-


PROBATE of the Will dated the 27th day of March, 1967, of LOUISE ROSALIE HEADLEY
late of Paynes Bay in the parish of Saint James in this Island who died on the 20th
day of December, 1968, by LEONARD PHILLIPS, one of the Executors named in the
Will of the said deceased.

PROBATE of the Will dated the 20th day of November, 1967, of ALEXANDER GODDARD,
late of Pioneer Road, Bush Hall in the parish of Saint Michael in this Island who died
on the 7th day of December, 1968, by SIMEON GEORGE GREAVES,the sole Execu-
tor named in the Will of the said deceased.

PROBATE of the Will dated the 24th day of September, 1965, of IRIS AVENAL DOTTIN,
late of Holetown in the parish of Saint James in this Island who died on the 10th day
of December, 1967, by GORDON MOSE, one of the Executors named in the Will of
the said deceased.

PROBATE of the Will dated the 22nd day of June, 1967 and Codicil dated the 4th day of
May, 1968, of MARION OLIVE INNISS, late of 3rd Avenue, Belleville in the parish of
Saint Michael in this Island who died on the 4th day of September, 1968, by HARRY
ARNOLD GILL, CHARLES DAVID HUSTON INNISS, and GEORGE DENIS CLARKE,
the Executors named in the Will of the said deceased.

PROBATE of the Will dated the 9th day of May, 1966, of PIERRETTA MOEZA DOTTIN,
late of Maraval, Worthing in the parish of Christ Church in this Island who died on
the 16th day of August, 1968, by BERYL LEOTFA SMALL, one of the Executors
named in the Will of the said deceased.

LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION to the Estate of JOSEPH NATHANIEL GRIFFITH late of
26C, Garrison in the parish of Saint Michael in this Island who died on or about the
18th day of April, 1966, by MARY ALBERTHA GRIFFITH, widow of the said de-
ceased.
LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION to the Estate of ANTHONY RICHARD McCLEAN late of
Bank Hall in the parish of Saint Michael in this Island who died on the 26th day of
February, 1969, by KENNETH CECIL BERESFORD McCLEAN father of the said
deceased.

LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION to the Estate of CLYDE ALBERT HAREW0OD late of
Belle Land, My Lords Hill in the parish of Saint Michael in this Island who died on
the 5th day of December, 1968, by MARJORIE BECKLES, mother of the said deceased.


April 17, 1969


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April 17, 1969


348 r I r LJ *- -

PROBATE ADVERTISEMENTS Cont'd

UNLESS CAVEAT is lodged within fourteen days from the date of this Advertisement
with the Registrar of the Supreme Court through whom the abovenamed applications have
been made Probate and Administration will be granted accordingly.


Dated this 28th day of March, 1969.

C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar.




PROBATE ADVERTISEMENTS

PUBLIC NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that applications have been made
for the following Grants of Probate and Administration namely :-




PROBATE of the Will dated the 21st day of January, 1967, of LILIAN LLEWELLYN
CATHERINE CLEARE, alsoknown as LILIAN CLEARE, late of Belleville in the par-
ish of Saint Michael in this Island who died on the 26th day of December, 1968, by
THEORDORE GRENVILLE ENTAGE, the sole Executor named in the Will of the
said deceased.

LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION to the Estate of WILBUR CURTIS DOWRICH late of
Whitehall Road in the parish of Saint Michael in this Island who died on the 20th day
of September, 1968, by ELLEN VIOLET DOWRICH, widow of the said deceased.

LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION to the Estate of JOSEPH ALBERT HOLDER late of
Fountain Road in the parish of Saint Michael in this Island who died on the loth day
of March, 1968, by MURIEL KATHLEEN HOLDER, widow of the said deceased.

UNLESS CAVEAT is lodged within fourteen days from the date of this Advertisement
with the Registrar of the Supreme Court through whom the abovenamed applications have
been made Probate and Administration Will be granted accordingly.



Dated this 11th day of April, 1969.


C. A. ROCHEFORD
Registrar


OFFICIAL GAZETTE







Ap


1. Name and Address of
Applicant:



2. Places between which
passengers and goods are
to be carried:




3. Plaes at which inter-
mediate landings are to
be made and the purposes
for which made:




4. Times or frequency of
the service:

5. Period for which the
Licence is applied for:

6. Latest date for making
representations or
objections:


Caribbean Atlantic Airlines,
Incorporated
P.O. Box 6035, Loiza Station,
Santurce Puerto Rico 00914.


Barbados/Miami



(a) For traffic purposes Antigua
St. Martin; St. Croix; St. Thomas;
San Juan; Santo Domingo; Port au
Prince; Montego Bay, Kingston.

(b) Weather alternates St. Martin;
St. Criox; St. Thomas, San Juan;
St. Thomas; West Palm Beach,
Florida.


Once daily


5 years



30th April, 1969.


This Application will be considered by the Air Transport Licensing Authority in
accordance with the provisions of the Air Navigation (Licensing of Air Services) Regula-
tions, 1959. Any representations or objections with regard to this application must be
made in writing, stating the specific grounds on which they are based and any conditions
which it may be desired shall be attached to the Licence, if granted. They should be
addressed to the Secretary, Air Transport Licensing Authority, C/o Prime Minister's
Office, Government Headquarters, Bay Street, and a copy sent to the applicant at the same
time. Further details of the application may be obtained from the Secretary.


rl 17, 1969 OFFICIAL GAZETTE 1


Government Notice



LICENSING OF AIR SERVICES



The Air Transport Licensing Authority give notice that they have received the
undermentioned application to operate a Schedule Air Service:


349










Government Notice


LICENSING OF AIR SERVICES

The Air Transport Licensing Authority give notice that they have received the
under-mentioned application to operate a Schedule Air Service:


1. Name and Address of
Applicant:



2. Places between which
passengers and goods are
to be carried:

3. Places at which inter-
medicate landings are to
be made and the purposes
for which made:

4. Times or frequency of
the service:

5. Period for which the
Licence is applied for:

6. Latest date for making
representations or
objections:


Caribbean Atlantic, Airlines,
Incorporated
P.O. Box 6035, Loiza Station,
Santurce, Puerto Rico 00914.

Barbados/ Trinidad



(a) For traffic purposes Nil
(b) Weather alternates Barbados
Trinidad.



Once daily


5 years



30th April, 1969.


This Application will be considered by the Air Transport Licnsing Authority in
accordance with the provisions of the Air Navigation (Licensing of Air Services) Regula-
tions, 1959. Any representations or objections with regard to this application must be made
in writing, stating the specific grounds on which they are based and any conditions which
it may be desired shall be attached to the licence, if granted. They should be addressed
to the Secretary, Air Transport Licensing Authotity, C/o Prime Minister's Office, Gov-
ernment Headquarters, Bay Street,p and a copy sent to the applicant at the same time.
Further detials of the applications may be obtained from the Secretary.


April 17, 1969


OFFICIAL GAZETTE











Government Notice


LICENSING OF AIR SERVICES


The Air Transport Licensing Authority give notice that they have received the
under-mentioned application to operate a Schedule Air Service:


1. Name and Address of
Applicant:


2, Places between which
passengers and goods are
to be carried:


3. Places at which inter-
mediate landings are to
be made and the purposes
for which made:








4. Times or frequency of
the service:

5. Period for which the
Licence is applied for:

6. Latest date for making
representations or
objections:


Caribbean Atlantic Airlines,
Incorporated
P.O. Box 6035, Lioza Station,
Santurce, Puerto Rico 00914.

Barbados/San Juan



(a) For traffic purposes St. Lucia;
Martinique; Guadeloupe;
Dominica; Antigua; St. Kitts;
St. Martin; St. Croix; St. Thomas;
Ponce; Mayaguey.

(b) Weather alternates Martinique;
Dominica; Guadeloupe; AL..gua;
St. Kitts; St. Martin; St. Croix;
St. Thomas; San Juan;
St. Thomas.


Once daily



5 years



30th April, 1969.


This application will be considered by the Air Transport Licensing Authority in
accordance with the provisions of the Air Navigation (Licensing of Air Services) Regula-
tions, 1959. Any representations or objectionswith regard to thisapplication must be made
in writing, stating the specific grounds on which they are based and any conditions which
it may be desired shall be attached to the licence, if granted. They should be addressed
to the Secretary, Air Transport Licensing Authority, C/o Prime Minister's Office, Gov-
ernment Headquarters, Bay Street, and a copy sent to the applicant at the same time.
Further details of the application may be obtained from the Secretary.


April 17, 1969


cPFicIAL QAZETTE







352!


Government Notice



LICENSING OF AIR SERVICES


The Air Transport Licensing Authority give notice that they have received the
undermentioned application to operate a Schedule Air Service:-


1. Name and Address of
Applicant:


2. Places between which
passengers and goods are
to be carried:

3. Places at which inter-
mediate landings are
be made and the purposes
for which made:
4. Times and frequency of
the service:

5. Period for which the
Licence is applied for:

6. Latest date for making
representations or
objections:


Caribbean Atlantic Airlines,
Incorporated
P.O. Box 6035, Loiza Station,
Santurce, Puerto Rico, 00914

Barbados/Caracas.

(a) For traffic purposes -
St. Vincent; Grenada; Trinidad.
Tobago.
(b) Weather alternates Grenada;
Trinidad, Caracas; Trinidad.

Once daily


5 years


30th April, 1969.


This application will be considered by the Air Transport Licensing Authority in

accordance with the provisions of the Air Navigation (Licensing of Air Services) Regulations,
1959. Any representations or objections with regard to this application must be made in
writing, stating the specific grounds on which they are based and any conditions which it
may be desired shall be attached to the licence, if granted They should be addressed to
the Secretary, Air Transport Licensing Authority. C/o Prime Minister's Office Govern-
ment Headquarters, Bay Street, and a copy to the applicant at the same time. Further
details of the applications may be obtained form the Secretary.


April 17, 1969


~bffIC~AL QAZETTE








OFFICIAL GAZETTE


Government Notice


LICENSING OF AIR SERVICES


The Air Transport Licensing Authority give notice that they have recieved the
under-mentioned application to operate a Schedule Air Service:

1. Name and Address of Caribbean Atlantic Airlines
Applicant: Incorporated
P. O. Box 6035, Loiza Station,
Santurce, Puerto Rico 00914.


2. Places between which
passengers and goods are
to be carried:


3. Places at which inter-
mediate landings are to
be made and the purposes
for which made:


4. Times or frequency of
the service:

5. Period for which the
Licence is applied for:

6 Latest date for making
representations or
objections:


Barbados/Trinidad and Tobago


(a) For traffic purposes St. Vincent
Grenada

(b) Weather alternates Grenada;
Trinidad; Barbados.


Once daily


5 years



30th April, 1969.


This application will be considered by the Air Transport Licensing Authoity in

accordance with the provisions of the Air Navigation (Licensing of Air Services) Regula-
tions, 1959. Any representations or objections with regard to this application must be
made in writing, stating the specific grounds on which they are based and any conditions
which it may be desired shall be attached to the Licence, if granted. They should be ad-
dressed to the Secretary, Air Transport Licensing Authority, C/o Prime Minister's
Office. Government Headquarters, Bay Street, and a copy sent to the applicant at the
same time. Further details of the application may be obtained from the Secretary.


April 17, 1969


OFFICfAL GIAZETTE


353








OFFICIAL GAZETTE


April 17, 1969


CUSTOMS SALE

Items to be Sold by Auction under Customs Act 1962-18, Section 176-2

DATE
No. MARKS AND NUMBERS DESCRIPTION DE TE
DEPOSITED


P.S.M.A.F.

National Yeast

H.J.J.
B.H. Ltd.

No Marks
Plastic Engineer

Royal on Sea

No Marks

Ideal 55875

Roberts & Co.

D.M. Ltd.

T. Geddes Grant

No Marks
C.F.H.

H.J.J.
C.M.C.E. & Co.

Court Bras.
C.G.L.

C&P

Hunte

Matouk & Co.

F.L. 100/200

181 5266

Wm. Fogarty
S.C. Kelly Ltd.

F.W.W.
A.& W Ltd.

G.E.C. Demerara

F.B.A.

DaCosta & Musson

Miss V. Marshall
B.V.G.L.

T.P.B.

L (61) C


I .1


Forty (40) drums Soda

Twenty (20) ctns. Yeast

One (1) pkge. M'dise

Two (2) ctns. Glassware
Two (2) ctns. M'dise

One (1) ctn. Plastic Fittings

One (1) ctn. Stokeley Food

One (1) ctn. Magic Marker

One (1) ctn. M'dise
One (1) box M'dise

Two (2) crates M'dise

One (1) ctn. Lamp Chimneys

Four (4) ctns. Lamp Chimneys

One (1) c/s H.H. Articles

One (1) Ctn. Canned Goods
Two (2) pkgs. Spares

One (1) bdl. Side Rails
One (1) box Car Tools

One (1) pcl. Empty Bags

One (1) pcl. Empty Bags

One (1) c/s Boys' Pants

Two (2) ctns. M'dise

One (1) ctn. M'dise

One (1) ctn. M'dise
One (1) ctn. Assorted Groceries

One (1) ctn. Glassware

One (1) ctn. Bags

Two (2) c/s Elec. Goods

One (1) ctn. Adverts

Two (2) bdls. Displays

Two (2) pcs. Iron Barbells
One (1) bdl. Crates

One (1) parcel Empty Bags
One (1) bag Bolts & Nuts


3541


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23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68
23.1.68

23.1.68

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23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68
23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68

23.1.68
25.1.68

25.1.68

29.2.68
29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68
29,2.68
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Y


No.


36

37

38

39

40

42

46

47

48

49

50

51

52

53

54

55

56


57

58

59

60

61

62

63

64

67

68

69

70

71

72

73

74


DESCRIPTION


4


MARKS AND NUMBERS


F.W.W.

F.W.W.

U.S.I. W.I. HAC/53

W.S.M.

W.F. Ltd. 2209

T.P.B.

Martinizing

Mapp's Garment Factory

C.M.C.E.

J.F.H.

J.A.M.

F.W.W.

Fairbanks

No Marks

No Marks

K & Co. 20/1967

J.B.L.


No Marks

S.P.M.

F.W.W.

C&P

Hunte

Manning

B'dos Hilton

Coral Reef

B.C.C.F.

Holiday Inn

D. Skeete, St. Thomas

Robert E. Heal

S. Henderson

V.E.A.

Leacock

George King


1 ________________________________________ 1


DATE
DEPOSITED


Eight (8) pkgs. M'dise

Three (3) pkgs. M'dise

One (1) ctn. M'dise

Seventeen (17) Botts & Caps

One (1) ctn. M'dise

One (1) bag Dioxide

Six (6) ctns. Carbon
Two (2) ctns. Poly Bags

One (1) pcl. Auto Parts

One Bdl. of two (2) ctns. Horlicks

One (1) ctn. Tinned Meats

One (1) ctn. Footwear

Eighty (80) ctns. Soap

One (1) bag Sundries

One (1) bag Sundries

One (1) c/s M'dise

Eleven (11) ctns. one (1) bag Mixed
Fruit and Vegetables

One (1) ctn. Nuts and Screws

Eight (8) ctns. Empty Bottles

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pcl. Empty Bags

One (1) pcl. Empty Bags

Two (2) c/s Lamp Black

One (1) box Pump Parts

One (1) truss C.P. Goods

One (1) crate Earthenware

One piece C.I. Pipe

One (1) pkg. P. Effects

Four (4) ctns. Asbestos Insulation

Two (2) pkgs. P. Effects

One (1) c/s M'dise

One (1) c/s M'dise

One (1) ctn. Bed


29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

29.2.68

1.3.68

1.3.68
1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

1.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68


April 17, 1969


OFFICIAL GAZETTE












DATE
No. MARKS AND NUMBERS DESCRIPTION DEPOSIT
DEPOSITED


Colony Hotel

AT Co.

#23/1967
B.L.P.C.

H.L.

H.S.H.L.

H.L. & Co.

A.T. Co.

E.E.S.

No Marks

H.J.J.
E. Johnson & Co.

B.C.C.F.

H.L. & Co. Ltd.

City Garage

A.T. Gittens
T.G.G.

Ministry of Agriculture

Roberts

Hutch

F.B.A. 7164

S.P.M.

K.P.I.

K.P.I.

K.P.I.

K.P.I.

Jas H. Inniss
J.N.H.
No Marks

C.F.H.

K.R.H.

S & B Ltd.

F. W. W. B'town

R.M. Jones


Nine (9) pkgs. Beds and Parts

Three (3) Loose Soil Pipes

One (1) c/s M'dise

One (1) c/s Spare Parts

One (1) c/s Adv. Material

One () ctn. Adv. Material

One/(1) c/s Adv. Material

One (1) bdl. P. Bags

One (1) pcl. Lamp Bulbs

One (1) ctn. Cigarettes

Two (2) ctns. Salmon

Five (5) pkgs. Electric Sparklers
C"- (1) bag Empty Bags

One (1) c/s Adv. Material

Six (6) ctns. Batteries

One (1) pkge. M'dise

One (1) ctn. Printed Matter

One (1) unpkd. Sludge Tank

One (1) ctn. Artists' Materials

One (1) ctn. Toothbrushes

One (1) ctn. M'dise

Eleven (11) ctns. Empty Bottles
Eighty-seven (87) ctns. Canned Meats

Four (4) ctns. Canned Meats

One (1) ctn. Canned Meats

One (1) ctn. Canned Meats
One (1) ctn. Confectionery

One (1) ctn. Glassware

One (1) ctn. Glassware

One (1) ctn. Pineapple Juice

One (1) ctn. Breeze

One (1) ctn. Cider

One (1) ctn. Glassware

Two (2) ctns. Canned Goods


27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68
27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

27.3.68

28.3.68

28.3.68

28.3.68

28.3.68

31.1.68

10.5.68

8.5.68
8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

8.5.68

9.5.68

9.5.68

9.5.68
9.5.68


4


April 17, ,1969


OFFICIAL GAZETTE








April 17...... 1969 FC G

DATE
No. MARKS AND NUMBERS DESCRIPTION DEPOSITED
_____1 __ __ D APSTE D


119
120
121

122

123
125

126
127
128
129
130


131
132
134

135
136
137
138

141

143
155
156

157
158

159
160
161
162
163

166
167
168
169
170
171


T.H.

No Marks
C.G./I.T. Advocate

Hunte
C & P

Kent Produtts
Kent Products
C.F.H.
Geddes Grant
W.S.M.
R.A.W.


D.E. & J.

Harrison
D.C. & M.

J.A.M.
W.I.S.CO.


Jamaica Bata
M & Co. Ltd. 25168

S.P.M.
03302
02311
D. O. Field

Victor Miller
R. Riss
83788
28860
717577

107. 53733
P 1711

Nair Karnani
No Marks
604587
66672
52998


1 4.


One (1) bdl. Empty Bags
One (1) bdl. Paper
One (1) sack Periodicals
One (1) pcl. Empty Bags

One (1) pcl. Empty Bags
Sixteen (16) ctns. Tinned Meat
Five (5) ctns. Tinned Meat
Five (5) ctns. M'dise
One (1) P. Bag Chemicals
Seven (7) bdls. Boxes
Three hundred and sixty (360
P. Bags Poultry Grits
One (1) ctn. M'dise
One (1) ctn. Scotch Broth
One (1) ctn. Adverts.
One (1) c/s Butter
Fifty (50) c/s Dog Food
One (1) bag Chain
One (1) pkge. Advvets.

One (1) c/s Empty Tank
One (1) ctn. Bottles
Three (3) btles.Liqueur
One (1) btle. Brandy

One (1) btle. Rum

One (1) btle. Rum

One (1) btle. Creme de Menthe
Two (2) btles. Rum
One (1) pkge. Auto Parts
One (1) box Dolls

One (1) pkge. Auto Parts
One (1) Pocket Radio
One (1) box Cuff Links
One (1) btle. Mt. Gay Rum
One (1) box G.M.U.
One (1) ctn. Liquor
One (1) bag containing three (3) bottles
Gin; four (4) bottles Whisky


9.5.68
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9.5.68
9.5.68

9.5.68
9.5.68
9.5.68
10.5.68
10.5.68
10.5.68


10.5.68
10.5.68
10.5.68
10.5.68

10.5.68
10.5.68
10.5.68
10.5.68

10.5.68
10.5.68

15.5.68
15.5.68
15.5.68

15.5.68

15.5.68
15.5.68
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15.5.68

15.5.68
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15.5.68
15.5.68

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OFFICIAL GAZETTE







6IWm7AT. nAEUUI~U


I i


MARKS AND NUMBERS


DESCRIPTION


iI I


172

173

174

175
176
177

178

186

188

189
190
192
193

194
195
196
198

199

202
210
211

217

218


221
222

224

225

226


227

228

229

230

232
233


93517

No Marks

No Marks

No Marks

51417
H.T. Jeeves
Tom Teether

No Marks
W.F. Ltd. D/8 5109

Mr. Suckling
005987
B. Merchandst
010621

Primo


I. Photos

Leimer Shops
N.M.S.

T. Cumberbatch

L. Cohun
007133

No Marks
F.R. & Co. W.B.H.
Fircos K 283/A
C.F.H.
A & Co.

T.G.G.

T.G.G.
W.F. Ltd D/8 5109
LS19 026

B'dos Hilton

No Marks

N.A.M. Co.


W.B.H.

No Marks


One

One
One

One

One


bdl. Paper Rolls

ctn. Pineapple Juice

pkg. M'dise
ctn. Fruit Juice

bag Chemicals


One (1) ctn. Cotton Piece Goods

One (1) ctn. Sugar
One (1) ctn. Corned Beef

One (1) ctn. Curry

One (1) crate Mahogany

One (1) c/s Sulph Powder
Two (2) pcs. Furniture


DATE
DEPOSITED


Four (4) btles. Wine

Two (2) boxes Histadyl Syrup

One (1) bag Med. Products

One (1) bag containing Camera Accesories

One (1) btle. XM Rum
Two (2) btles. Russian Bear Rum

One (1) pkge. G.M.U.
One (1) Spring

One (1) pkg. G.M.U.

One (1) btle. Old Oak Rum

One (1) btle. King of Diamond Rum
One (1) btle. Russian Bear Rum

One (1) btle. X.M. Rum

One (1) ctn. Ice Cream Cups

One (1) pkge. Elec. Fan

Two (2) boxes Liquor
One (1) ctn. Outerwear

Three (3) Tennis Racquets

One (1) pkg. Records
Three (3) btles. Bitters
One (1) pkge. Phospherine

Two (2) bags Coke


a a i


No.


15.5.68

15.5.68

15.5.68

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15.5.68

15.5.68

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15.5.68
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15.5.68

15.5.68

15.5.68
15.5.68

15.5.68

15.5.68

15.5.68
15.5.68

15.5.68

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17.6.68

17.6.68
17.6.68

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17.6.68

17.6.68

14.6.68


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April 17, 1969


flWWW'YAT f l ~ crIrrPn


No. MARKS AND NUMBERS DESCRIPTION DATE
DEPOSITED


234


235

236
237
238

239

240

241

242

243

244

245

246

247
248

249

250

251

252

253
254

255

256

257
258

259

260

261
262
263

264

265

266


Fred Astor Concrete
Form Co.

No Marks

H.L. & Co.

Wm. Fogarty
R.M.J. & Co.


B.T.C.

Berger Paints
T.G.G.

W&C

C &G IT

S.P.L. 3253
RT

201500

931153
878280

468016

415091

215233
137342
573368

005420

785454
940476
638481

522690

613866

935887
436896

369976

244474

155129
1424584


One (1) ctn. Nails

Four (4) ctns. & one (1) bale M'dise

One (1) c/s Adv. Material

One pkg. Wooden Articles

One (1) ctn. Jams

One (1) ctn. Marmalade

One (1) Loose Tyre

Two (2) bags M'dise

One (1) ctn. Milk
One (1) ctn. Hardware

One (1) sack Periodicals

Twenty-eight (28) Ctns. Ornaments

One (1) ctn. Compound
One (1) heat Exchanger

One (1) pkge. G.M.U.

One (1) ctn. Colognes
One (1) ctn. Glass Articles

One (1) pkge. Novelty Fabric Samples
One (1) pkg. Record Files

One (1) pkg. Tractor Files

One (1) ctn. Phono Records

Three (3) ctns. Men's shirts

One (1) ctn. Phono Records
One (1) pkg. P'ted Matter

One (1) ctn. Sliding Door
One (1) pkg. Transparancies

Two (2) Time Magazines

One (1) ctn. Lab. Apparatus

One (1) ctn. Test Kit
One (1) pail Paint Coating

One (1) ctn. Drugs

One (1) pkg. Engine Spares
One (1) box Printed Matter


14.6.68

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14.6.68

14.6.68

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14.6.68

14.6.68

14.6.68

14.6.68
14.6.68

14.6.68

14.6.68
25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

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25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68
25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68
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25.6.68
25.6.68
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DATE
No. MARKS AND NUMBERS DESCRIPTION DEPOSITED
_ _ _ _ DEPOSITED


267

268

269

270

271

272

273

274

275

276

277

278
279

280

281

282
283

284

285
286

287

288

289

290

291

292

293

294

295

296
297

298

301

303

304
308


.342630








722194


2 33749
812-6156

155-2237

026-5498-639

3575

231 880

1785 893

026-0 153 974

Dominica Tractor Co.
410295

006 771 933

006 170404

A17306 10 x 9
SOB 70S737

026 0663 782

444 541

U.N.K.

U.N.K.
328811

419 351

508 367

595 698

11 86 -43

595 572

Gouveia
F.J. Burton

No Marks

Percy

No Marks


One (1) pcl. Sample Athletic Shirt

One (1) Safety Helmet

One (1) pkg. Film

One (1) bdl. Air Condition Pts.

One (1) ctn. Toilet Accessories

One (1) pee. G.M.U.

One (1) pee. G.M.U.

One (1) pkg. Bearings

One (1) pkg, M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

Two (2) pkgs. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise
One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

Two (2) pkgs. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

Two (2) pkgs. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

Two (2) pkgs. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) pkg. M'dise

One (1) ctn. Rum
One (1) Tripod

One (1) btle. Rum

Three (3) ctns. XM Rum

One (1) ctn. unknown

One (1) bag P. Effects
One (1) btle. Champagne

One (1) btle. Red Port Wine


I I J.


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25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

25.6.68

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30.7.68

30.7.68

30.7.68
30.7.68

30.7.68

30.7.68

30.7.68
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April 17, 1969 OFFICIAL GAZETTE


No.


DESCRIPTION


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312

313

314

316

318

319

320

321

322
323

324

325

326
327
329
330

331
332
333

334

335


336

337

338

339

340

341

342

343

344

345

346

347

348


DATE
DEPOSITED


MARKS AND NUMBERS


27937
BOAC

595824


C.S.

B.C.C.F.

4911 126

A W #1


Esso
Esso

Esso

Esso

Esso
B. Brooker


M. Correia

N/M

C.M.L.

N/M


Manager, St. Luica
Beach Hotel

G. Jemmott
R. Austin

Jordan

T. Joshua

R. Codrington
A. Knight

Modinarova
A. Knight

T.S. Garraway & Co. Ltd.

R. M. Jones & Co. Ltd.

R.M. Jones & Co. Ltd.

Stokes & Bynoe Ltd.
Stokes & Bynoe Ltd.


One (1) btle. Vat 19 Rum

One (1) Flash Camera

One (1) btle. W. Horse Whisky

Two (2) pkgs. M'dise
One (1) c/s Merchandise

Two (2) Empty Cylinders

One (1) case Whisky

One (1) case M'dise

Ten (10) ctns. Pork Loins

One (1) Welding Plant
One (1) pkg. Accessories

Two (2) bdls. Tyres

One (1) ctn. Inner Tubes

One (1) pkg. M'dise
Five (5) ctns. Coffee etc.

Two (2) bags Coal
One (1) pkg. M'dsie

One (1) Empty Cylinder

One (1) piece Motor

One (1) ctn. M'dise

One (1) pkg. Pers. Effects


One (1) pkg. M'dise
Two (2) btles. Brandy
One btle. Brandy

One (1) btle. Brandy

One (1) btle. Gin

One (1) btle. Sherry

One (1) btle'. Wine
One (1) btle. Rum

One (1) btle, Rum

One (1) ctn. Gin

One (1) cask Wine

One (1) cask Wine
Two (2) c/s Assorted Liqueur
One (1) ctn. Liqueur


30.7.68

30.7.68

30.7.68

10.8.68

7.8.68

22.5.68

30.7.68

29.2.68
20.2.69

21.2.69

21.2.69

21.2.69

21.2.69

21.2.69

27.1.69



















2.12.68


1.11.68
1.11.68

1.11.68
23.2.66

7. 6.66

77 6.66

24.11.66
28. 9.66


L I


April 17, 1969


OFFICIAL GAZETTE









OFIILGAET pil1.16


GOVERNMENT NOTICES
Appointments

Lindsay A. Drakes has been appointed
Groom, Police Department, with effectfrom
1st February, 1969.


(M.P. 3657/7)

The following persons have been ap-
pointed to the post of Staff Nurse, Health
Centres with effect from 1st March, 1969.

Mrs. Grace P. Tulle
Mrs. Edna Barker
Mrs. Sheila Armstrong

(M.P. 5968/5)

Charles G. Johnston, has been appointed
to the post of Electrical Engineer, Electrical
Inspection Department, with effect from 1st
April, 1969.

(M.P. 1703/S.1/4).


Mrs. Merle Arthur, Tutor, Community
College, to be Executive Officer, Ministry of
External Affairs, with effect from 1st Apri;,
1969.

(M.P. 1515/39/22/14)


Resignation

Ulricia V. Best, Clerical Officer, Na-
tional Insurance Office resigned from the
Public Service with effect from 1st April,
1969.

(M.P. P. 8613)


Acting Appointment

L. A. Bourne, Town Planner, Town Plan-
ning Office, acted as Chief Town Planner,
with effect from 3rd April to 9th April, 1969.

(M.P. 8952/10)


Appointments to the Barbados Development
Bank

Pursuant to the provisions of paragraph
1 of the schedule to the Barbados Development
Bank Act, 1963, the Minister of Finance has
appointed the following persons to be mem-
bers of the Barbados Development Bank for a
period of three years with effect from 1st
April, 1969:-

Mr. L. Bernstein Chairman
Mr. P. Stewart Kirby Deputy
Chairman
Mr. Clifford Zepherin Member
The Financial Secretary Member
The Manager, Industrial
Development Corporation Member
(M.P. 5021/4 Vol.IV).

Vacant Post in the Public Service

Chief Labour Officer, Ministry of Agriculture,
Labour and National Insurance.

Salary: $10,080 per annum

Further particulars may be obtained from
Service Commissions Department
"Flodden", Culloden Road, St. Michael.

Closing date for applications: 28th June, 1969.

(M.P. 388/10)


Government Printing Office.


OFFICIAL GAZETTE


April 17. 1969











THE


SENATE


DEBATES


(OFFICIAL REPORT)


SECOND SESSION OF 1966 71


THE SENATE
Friday, 1st September, 1967.
The Senate met in the Senate Chamber, Public
Buildings, at 4 p.m. today.

PRESENT

His Honour Senator E.S. ROBINSON, C. B. E.
(President), His Honour Senator C.AsquithPHILLIPS,
B. A., (Deputy President), Senator the Honourable
H.A.VAUGHAN, O.B.E., Q.C., (Minister of State and
Leader of the Senate), Senator the Honourable P.M.
GREAVES, B.A., (Minister of Home Affairs), Sena-
tor the Honourable L.E.SANDIFORD, M.A. (Minis-
ter of Education) Senator H. Odessa GITTENS,
M.R.S.H., (Parliamentary Secretary), Senator C. L.
BRATHWAITE, Senator D. A. WILES, C. M. G.,
O. B.E, Senator F. C. H. CAREW, Senator Jr. R.B.
CADDLE, B.Sc., M.B.B.S., Senator S. V. ASHBY,
Senator F. L. WALCOTT, O. B. E., Senator W. W.
BLACKMAN, M.B.E., Senator S. A. BLANCHETTE,
Senator R. G. MAPP.


ABSENT

Senator the Honourable F. G. SMITH, Q. C.,
(Attorney General), Senator E. Lisle Ward, Senator
N. A. BARROW, B.A., Senator Erma V. ROCK, Sena-
tor H. F. ALKINS, Senator P. G. MORGAN.
Prayers were said.

EXCUSE FOR ABSENCE

The Clerk informed the Senate that he had been
asked to offer an excuse for the absence of Senator
H. F. Alkins from the day's meeting.

AMENDMENT TO NOTE TO ITEM 49 OF HEAD
46 OF ESTIMATES 1967 1968

The President called the first Order A Reso-
lution to approve an amendment to the note to Item
49 of Head 46 of the Estimates 1967 1968, relating
to the allowances payable to Pupil Midwives and
Ward Assistants at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, The Midwifery Training Course at the
Queen Elizabeth Hospital caters for twenty trainees
partly people without training in nurs ing at all and part -


ly staff nurses from the old Maternity Hospital. There
are ten untrained persons and ten staff nurses. Apart
from that the arrangement also,when the untrained
nurses were being trained atVerona, Bank Hall, they
would be given a travelling allowance to enable them
to get to the Maternity Hospital. The untrained
nurses who were naturally unpaid were given $14 a
month and staff nurses $8 a month.

That arrangement continued for shortly after
the Queen Elizabeth Hospital was opened with its
Maternity Block of fifty six beds. The mere opening
of that block however has brought certain inevitable
changes. In the first place it offered a greater op-
portunity for training for a greater numberof nurses
in Midwifery and it emphasised the fact that the
amount given to untrained people by way of travelling
allowance was inadequate. At the same time it made
it abundantly clear that there was no further justifi-
cation for paying travelling allowance to staff nurses
who would be in the same compound and had no
travelling to do.

It was therefore proposed that the note to the item
in the Estimates authorising the payment of this
travelling allowance should be altered so as to bring
it more in keeping with subsequent arrangements.
The situation where the ward assistants are concerned
is not changed. The point of the Resolutions is that
as far as the staff nurses are concerned they will
no longer be paid travelling allowance; but the un-
trained people whose opportunities have been in-
creased will have their travelling allowances increased
from $14 a month to $50 a month.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator the Honourable P .M. Greaves seconded
the motion.

SENATOR DOCTOR R. B. CADDLE: Mr. Pres-
ident, Whenever one hears of the Hospital one is
reminded of a man who built a new boat, put an old
engine in it and then proceeds to replace the engine
part by part hoping that in process of time he would
have a new boat.

To come to the Resolution before us, we find
that as far back as 1950 pupil Midwives in Barbados
were beinggiven an allowance of $14 a month. In 1950







2221


it was inadequate and it is more so in 1967. Mid-
wifery is a specialised part of nursing. In fact there
are those who argue that it is the oldest form of nurs-
ing. In Barbados where we are facedwith a high in-
crease of population we can see that there is a
great need for Midwives. When you go into the par-
ishes and become aware of the attention which some
mothers in labour lack we realise that the position
is a very serious one.

I am reminded that the Barbados Registered
Nurses Association in a memorandum to the Minister
of Health and Community Development, of which I
have a copy, made a strong case that the allowance
to be given to pupil midwives be the same as given
to nursing trainees. They get $97 in the first year,
$101 in the second year, $105 in the third year,
$109 in the fourth year.

When you look at the conditions which nursing
trainees work under as part of their training you
notice that they are provided with accommodation,
shoes etc. No such things are provided for trainee
midwives. If for some reason she has to remain at
the hospital she would be required to pay 40 cents
a night. Under the conditions underwhich these people
have to exist it is doubtful that you will attract the
type of person you need so much to take up either
general nursing or midwifery.

To raise-this allowance from $14 to $50 is not
going very far. I wonder if it is not below the mini-
mum standard wage that Government itself seeks to
uphold. We live in society where some people follow
the philosophy that half a loaf is better than no loaf
at all. To my mind that is an erroneous philosophy.
If a loaf is required for the full development of an
individual and you give him a half loaf you will not
have a fully developed individual. In failing to meet
the request of the BNA who have a first hand know-
ledge of the difficulties which these midwives have to
face and of their social and domestic conditions, we
are wondering if the Government is not upholding
the half of a loaf philosophy.

What I am saying is that while the Government
is focusing attention on the needs of the people they
must create the false impression that they are only
interested in a particular class.

An allowance of $50 a month is small bearing
in mind that a young lady is expected to maintain a
certain standard of dress and at least get a hairdo.
We have to wonder if this can really help these people
to maintain the standard which they are expected to
maintain. They have to have some form of instruction
and it is expected that these people should be in a
position to relieve their parents of some of the fi-
nancial burdens which they had to shoulder for a
long time. If people go out to study nursing and their
parents still have to go on maintaining this burden
and responsibility it must make for dissatisfaction.

When one considers the Queen Elizabeth Hospital
some of the problems there are centred around dis-


satisfaction and those problems need closer scrutiny.
Only last year at the Annual General conference of
the DLP there were resolutions callingfor investi-
gation into the administration and general conditions
at the hospital. So farwehave heard nothing more
about it. There is alot of dissatisfaction at the hospi-
tal and maybe the Government is contributing to it.

In the present case where the Government has
come forward to increase the allowance; from $14
to $50 it shows that they are not in agreement with
the recommendation of the BRNA and they are,
perhaps unwittingly, subscribing to this dissatis-
faction. I hope that the Minister will convey my re-
marks to the Cabinet and I hope that they will go into
the matter and see if they cannot come to an agree-
ment with the recommendations of the BRNA.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: Mr. President, -
I most heartily support the remarks made byDoctor
Caddie. I took the trouble to look as far back as the
copy of the Estimates for 1950, the inception of the
Maternity Hospital. It is no wonderthatwe find people
prepared to go to England rather than to remain at
the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, although the Queen Eli-
zabeth Hospital has the same status as hospitals in
England.
Imagine, $14 a month from 1950 to 1967 and now
$50 which is only $12.50 a week. We know that these
students are drawn from families in certain cir-
cumstances. It seems to me that we must support
family planning because, from the wages paid to our
young women, they must resort to other means to
supplement their wages.

The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to.

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (CURRENT)
No. 16

The President called the secondOrder -A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $47,268 at the disposal of
the Government to Supplement the Estimates 1967 -
68 Part 1 Current as shown in the Supplementary
Estimates, 1967 68 No. 16whichforms the Schedule
to the Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE P. M. GREAVES:
Mr. President, This Resolution seeks the approval
of a very large sum of money, but I am sure that
Senators will agree that the money will be money
well spent. The Barbados Police Band has gained
a fair amount of distinction abroad aad here is an-
other opportunity to add to its laurels.

The Expo authorities have expressed interest
in having the Police Band visit Expo to play in con-
nection with Barbados' National Day. In fact, they
have invited the Band and other sections of the Force
to participate in the programme which is scheduled
for the 15th and 16th September. It is proposed that
the Director of Music,along with forty fourmembers
of the Band as well as eighteen members of the
mounted troop, all under the Commissioner of Po-












lice should visit Canada in order to participate in the
show to which I have referred. The cost amounts to
$47,268.

The Expo authorities are expected to render some
assistance with respect to the cost of transportation
in Canada and it is anticipated that $21,478 would be
refunded to general revenue. The position is that it
is not yet known when this amount will be refunded
so it is thought best that the Government should ask
Parliament to give approval to the full amount.

As I said before, I think it would be agreed that
this is a very large amount; but if for no more that
in the field of tourism I feel that it will make a very
handsome return. I commend it to Senators and I
move that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan seconded
the motion.

SENATOR R. G. MA'P: Sir, onthe lastoccasion
when a contingen: of the Police Band was in Canada,
we were very shocked members of the public to
read a ~.port sent back by a Barbadian living in
Canada which portrayed in rather pitiable terms,
the conditions under which the contingentwas housed
at that time. According to this report which came
from a student, who is by no means a radical or
left wing or anything of the sort, according to the re-
port, while some of the officers lived in luxury, these
men were put up in what was tantamount to a barn,
and some of the men took it rather hard.

I have never seen that report which was carried
in most of the press denied. I have never seen that
it was untrue, neither did I see any comment of any
sort by those in authority, so that I think the Govern-
ment will agree that we are quite justified in asking
on this occasion what type of accommodation will be
provided for these men and who is makingthe arrange-
ment for this accommodation. I do not know if they are
being housed with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
but we all know that at this time it is very very diffi-
cult to find accommodation in Montreal with Expo' on
and I am hoping that the Honourable Minister of Home
Affairs will relieve our fears about the housing con-
ditions awaiting these men in Canada, and that what
happened on the last occasion will not happen onthis
occasion.

Generally, Sir, there is hardly any oppositionto
these items. I heard the Hon. member speak about
attracting tourists; I understand even if these people
do not go up it will be difficult to find somewhere to
house the tourists anyhow. We are spending all this
money on our booth up there; it is a nice place to go,
and it is attracting millions of Canadians who enjoy
our rum and so on. I think this talk about attracting
tourists can be everyone; other people must get things
beside the politicians and members of the Government
I just wanted to say that so far as the equestrian
spectacular is concerned, our only fear is that the
fiasco on the last occasion and the conditions under
which these men existed will not be repeated. Unless
the Government stresses to the authorities that they
are aware, or that these reports were made to this


island, and that they are hoping it will not be repeated,
it just might.

SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: Mr. President, I am
sorry that Senator Mapp has chosen to bring a report
to this Senate without really telling us whether he
believes it or not. He has not told us that there has
been any complaint by any member of the contingent.
I would say this, I am sure he has travelled, and
travelling is a very strange experience for some
people. Some people get homesick; they stay in a
luxury hotel, enjoy the best of everything and still
complain, and I certainly could not be persuaded by
thi report that somebody else wrote and said that the
men were dissatisfied. The men themselves have not
said so; I speak as a member of the Expo Committee;
I happen to know that very suitable accommodation
has been provided for these men. It still would not sur-
prise me if you find one man complaining.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE P. M. GREAVES:
Mr. President, I would like to say this. I understand
that some time ago a report making certain allega-
tions as to the type of accommodation which the mem -
bers of the Barbados Police Force were given
appeared last year in the Beacon. The allegation is
that they were met by this Barbadian now resident in
Canada, and were given the most unsuitable accommo-
dation. Whether in fact these allegations could be
supported is something which the hon. Senator can
answer.


I am happy to inform Senator Mapp and the Senate
that these allegations were most forcibly denied. That
disposes of that question.


The Senator has asked for certain assurances; I
cannot give the assurance that what happened last
time would not happen now, because what was alleged to
have happened did not happen, but I can state that the
Commissioner General himself has put in a report on
the type of accommodation that the members of the
Police Force will be having while they are in Canada,
and in fact the Commissioner General who is himself
a member of this Chamber has had this to say. This
report was put in in June of this year. He said tlat
the members of the Police and the Mounted Troop
will be staying in barracks during their visit to Expo
in September. So it will be seen, Mr. President, that
the Police will be in barracks as they are here.


He went on to say that he met with Major C. R.
Cristensen, the Expo' and Centennial Co-ordinator,
who was kind enough to show him the accommodation
which will be available both to the officers and the
men, and he can assure you that these appear to be
very comfortable and satisfactory. He also visited the
Officers' Mess and the mess kitchen another ranks,
and he is quite pleased with these facilities; in fact,
they are what he would order, and he is quite sure that
they will find them most satisfactory.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed


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AMENDMENT TO NOTE TO ITEM 129 OF
HEAD 46 OF ESTIMATES 1967-68
His Honour the President called the next order
of the day A Resolution to approve an amendment
to Item '129 of Head 46 of the Estimates 1967-68 re-
lating to the provision of laundry equipment for the
Queen Elizabeth Hospital.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, the provision made under Item 129
Head 46 for laundry equipment for the hospital is
$13,100, and that amount was to include the cost of one
large tumbler or dryer. In the note, of course, the cost
of that item was not given, but in consultation with the
maintenance people of the hospital, we understand
that the cost of this tumbler or dryerwould be some
$3,600. It was also understood that this tumbler or
dryer would have a capacity of 100 lbs. Subsequent
to investigations and discussions it was learnt that
the cost of such a dryer or tumbler would be some-
thing like $6,270 and we therefore consulted with the
Resident Engineer and he has suggested that we get
two small tumblers or dryers with total capacity of
100 lbs. the same we would have got if we had the
large tumbler or dryer and which would cost very
little more than the large machine.

The opinion of the Resident Engineer is that these
two small tumblers would be quite adequate for the
work, and that they would give reasonable service. The
$6,270 which would have been the cost of this big
tumbler would be some $2,670 more than what was
originally voted for the large tumbler or dryer, bat
the Resolution is now to ask permission to get these two
small tumblers or dryers at a total costwhich would
be very little more than the cost of the large tumbler
or dryer as originally envisaged when the Estimates
was brought before Parliament. I move that this Reso-
lution be concurred in.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE P. M. GREAVES:
I beg to second that .

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

BILL TO AMEND THE INTERPRETATION ACT 1966
His Honour the President called the next Order of
the day.

A Bill to amend the Interpretation Act, 1966.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, about, the middle of last year the
Legislature, as it then was, passedanewInterpreta-
tion Bill revoking the existing Act of 1949. remem-
ber when the now Minister for Home Affairs was then
introducing the Bill he said quite likely that it was a
Bill with which every lawyer would be proud. It was
based on the most thorough investigation and the
Interpretation Act of Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica,
our own 1949 Act, and the Interpretation Act of
Northern Ireland. A special draft Bill was made
by a draftsman attached to the Government of North-
ern Ireland and later seconded to Jamaica, and we
were very pleased with it.


Since then certain things have taken place. We
have had a change in our Constitution, and that Act
was passed and put on the Statute Book before Bar-
bados became independent. It has to be altered in
certain respects to make it in keeping with the Con-
stitution. I will not bore members of this Chamber
with a long speech on what are the Constitutional
arrangements. I would just briefly give some ex-
amples.

Before the 30th November 1966 we had a Govern-
or, a Senate and a House of Assembly. Now we have
a Governor- General, therefore wherever the term
"Governor" appears in our legislation or in the In-
terpretation Act of 1966, it should be changed to
'.'Governor-General". We had a Legislature, but now
we have a Parliament, andwhereverthe word "Legis-
lature" appears in that Act the word "Parliament"
will be substituted. The Constitutional changes which
are necessitated by our Independence, and which are
dealt with in this Bill will be foundin clauses 2 to 12,
but more especially in clauses 9 to 12.

There are two interesting amendments in clause
11. We have made provision for the definition of
.Associated States which of course could not be included
in the previous Act, and for those members who may
possibly regard some of the remarks it may be of
interest to note that clause 7 on page 5 does away
with any such provision forward labour, so there will
be no such direction of the court.

Well, there is one other way in which this Bill
seeks to amend the Act of 1966, and that is by rec-
tifying certain typographical orgrammatical errors. It
is not a] ways possible to spot one or two printed errors,
and if members will turn to clause 14 on page 15, they
will see printed the figure 42 where it should be
section 48. Mr. President, those are just afew brief
explanations which I am sure members will appreci-
ate. I move that this Bill be read a second time.

SENATOR F. C. H. CAREW: I beg to second
that.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, one of
the paragraphs, section 11 of the Bill,mention is made
of the Eastern Caribbean and it says "Eastern
Caribbean" shall mean Antigua, St. Kitts-Nevis-An-
guilla, Montserrat, etc. I do not intend to enter upon
any discussion of the particular Constitution which
obtains in the Eastern Caribbean, St. Kitts- Nevis-
Anguilla, because I feel any discussion on that some
day would warrant a major debate; but I feel that the
Government here should of course all three islands
are constitutionally still recognized as part of the
same unitary state, but we know that for practical
purposes the position is not like this today, and I think,
Sir, that I am quite in order in asking the hon. Mini-
ster to enlightenus asto this Government's attitude
towards this whole question the Anguilla question.
(LAUGHTER) This is no laughing matter.

Mr. PRESIDENT: I do not want to interrupt the
hon. Senator but if he would look at page 8, section












11, he will see that this section is applicable for
official purposes only, andI take it on page 10 what is
meant by the definition of the Eastern Caribbean is
set out very clearly what it says it shall mean, and
I am afraid that I cannot allow a debate with regard to
what is taking place in one of these territories of the
so-called designated Eastern Caribbean.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: My whole point is this,
Sir. It is quite clear to this Government that the
Eastern Caribbean shall mean Antigua, St. Kitts -
Nevis Anguilla as one entity, but I think that they
should be aware that the whole public is a bit worried
that things are not going along......

Mr. PRESIDENT: I think what the hon. Senator
suggested in his opening remarks, that this could
be the subject of a motion or Resolution and have an
official debate if he so desires, but Ithink to introduce
this into this Interpretation Bill is stretching the
interpretation of what is meant by the Eastern Carib-
bean.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: I was just hoping that
the Minister or Ministers would relieve any anxieties
on this score because they are a group of islands,
but the public does not know what the position is.

Mr. PRESIDENT: I trust that the hon. Senator
bears in mind what I have already ruled.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Yes. I only put it out to
the Government. I am only asking them, because the
Opposition has not been consulted on this matter at
all. If we were consulted on this matter I would not
ask that at all.

SENATOR F. L. WALCOTT: I rise on a point of
order. Am I permitted to use in this Interpretation
Act, the headings of all the things in this Act like
the Governor- General etc?

Mr. PRESIDENT: I agree with Senator Walcott
and I trust that Senator Mapp will follow the advice
that I have given him.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: The Governor-General
is not in any position like St. Kitts- Nevis- Anguilla,
so that therefore I am worried. The three names
appear here together; there is some doubt as to what
they are today. In the view of the Government there
is no difference, Anguilla is still part of St. Kitts-
Nevis.

Mr. PRESIDENT: Perhaps if the hon. Senator
will resume his seat the Minister will inform him
what is meant by it.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: I am just making it
quite clear what I am getting at because he may be in
some doubt. Anyhow I can only tell them that they
group them together, and we will welcome a state-
ment in the near future, and if the Government will
not make a statement as regards this in the near
future, we will bring a motion as to this Constitution
in the very near future.


SENATOR D. A. WILES: Mr. President, clause
6. Does this mean that the Minister advises that the
particular Act comes into force on the signing even
although the Act may not have been existing? This
refers to the passing. Is it correctto assume that al-
though the Act may not have been existing, without
any special date given for coming into force it is in-
deed in force when the Governor-General assents?
SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
That is how we propose to amend Section 15 of the
Act. This Clause, Clause 6, says:

"(1) The date of the passingof every Act shall be
the date on which the Governor General has signed
it in token of his assent thereto inHer Majesty's be-
half and in this Actthe expression "Royal Assent"
means such assent as aforesaid."

This deals no, with the date of the coming into
operation of the Act but the passing of the Act. Take
for instance the Family Planning Act. That has been
assented to by the Governor-General; but it has not
yet come into operation because by one of its sections
it does not come into operation until it has been pro-
claimed. I do not see what the difficulty is.



SENATOR D. A. WILES: Where there is nopro-
vision for proclamation on a particular date I am
wondering if the Act has the force of law.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Yes. It is an Act of Parliament, and as such it is a legal
enactment. It has the force of law. If it has a suspend-
ing clause, or as was the case in the old days, a
section authorising the Governor to allow the Act to
remain in suspense until Her Majesty's pleasure is
known, then the Act would not come into operation
and it would not be effective. You could not prosecute
under it until such day as it came into force by Her
Majesty making her pleasure known or the Governor
proclaiming it. Otherwise, the moment the Governor
General signs it it becomes law.

The question that the Bill be read a second time
was put and agreed to.

On the motion of Senator the Hon. H. A. Vaughan
seconded by Senator F. C. H. Carew the Senate went
into Committee on the Bill, Senator C. Asquith
Phillips in the Chair.

Clauses 1 to 17 of the Billwere called and passed
without debate.

The question that the passing of the Bill in Com-
mittee be reported to the Senate was put and agreed
to.

His Honour the President resumedthe Chairand
the passing of the Bill was reported accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Hon. H. A. Vaughan
seconded by Senator F. C. H. Carew the Bill was
read a third time and passed.












BILL TO AUTHORISE THE GOVERNMENT TO
BORROW A SUM OF MONEY FROM THE
GOVERNMENT OF CANADA

The President called the fifth Order -- A Bill
to authorise the Government to borrow from the Bank
of Canada for purposes set out in the Schedule a
sum of money not exceeding $250,000 (Canadian).

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- This is a very brief Bill which
deals with a very Important subject, nothing less than
putting the Government of this country in a position
of being able to improve considerably our Dairy
Industry.

I am sure, Sir, that: members will not need from
me any long introduction. The matter has been dis-
cussed elsewhere during the last few years, more
probably during the last five to six months. The
important thing is that the Government is now in a
position as a result of these discussions with the
Government of Canada to come to Parliament and say
that the Canadian Government is willing to advance
to the Government of Barbados the sum of a quarter
million dollars interest free for certain specific
purposes in our Dairy Industry programme. This
money will be repaid in 80 semi-annual instalments
and with no other charges attacked to it whatever.

Sir, it is envisaged that the funds provided by
this loan will be used for the purchase of 80 head of
Canadian dairy cattle to be selected by the Govern-
ment or its agents during this year, 1968 and 1969.
The Canadian Government will provide us with an
adviser in animal nutrition for three years,
and for those local people who need more training
certain high class laboratory equipment.

I need hardly say that this is an unprecedented
opportunity for dealing with so vital a sector of our
economy. I am sure that the purpose of the Bill will
commend itself to every right thinking citizen.

Ordinarily, as with some international agencies,
it might have been sufficient if an agreement had
been entered into between the Canadian Government
and this Government; but we have been advised that
it would be better to come before Parliament and
get specific legislative authority for entering into
this contract.

There is some precedent for this sort of thing.
There is the Building Loan Act of 1963 allowing the
Government to borrow certain sums for such pur-
poses as the Act may direct. Ifmemberswill turn to
the Bill they will see in Clause 2 that -


"Notwithstanding the provisions of any other
enactment the Government is hereby authorised to
borrow from the Government of Canada a sum of
money not exceeding two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars in the currency of Canada on such terms and
conditions as may be agreed between the Government
and the Government of Canada."


Clause 4 deals with the conditions of payment.

There is one thing that I wish to say, after this
project as we have every reason to believe gets
well started, the day is not fardistantwhen the price
of our milk will be reduced; because the methods of
dairy farming popularised by this scheme will result
in greater know how and more business like methods
and a better return to the dairy farmer.

I have said nothing about quality of the milk
because the quality of milk we get from the dairy at
the Pine Hill is very good. The pointthat I am making
is that the price to the consumerwillbe considerably
reduced.

I am not a prophet myself and therefore I am not
in a position to say when that consummation so devout-
ly wished may be expected. Iwill content myself with
soliciting their best wishes and best efforts and
support inside and outside of Parliament so that this
scheme when started will do what is expected of it.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurredin.

Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.

SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: Mr. President, I
want to support this Bill. I thinkthatthe Government
realizes fully that support of the Dairy Industryfalls
squarely on their shoulders. I know that some people
are getting the impression that this is an exercise
for the dairy plant; but that is not so. It is strictly the
responsibility of the Government.

I want to point out that milk processing and
marketing is not necessarily the means of encou-
raging dairy farming. In a plant such as the one we
have the production of fresh milk is not considered as
a profitability factor. It must depend entirely upon
reconstitutionofmilk which is done from imported
powdered milk. It would not therefore be in the in-
terest of a processing plant to encourage the pro-
duction of fresh milk, or the profitabilitywillbe low.

I am glad to see that the Government has made
a move to take the bull by the horns and encourage
dairy farming because the dairy's main interest
will be to continue to import powdered milk. In
encouraging the Dairy Industry the Government will
at the same time provide a means of increasing our
meat production and allow us to cut down considerably
on the amount of money exported from Barbados. I
commend the Government on this step.



SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, -- I did
not intend to say anything on this Resolution; but I
could hardly forbear to rise and make some comment
after hearing the remarks of the last Senator. He
speaks with such authority that one is tempted to
believe that he knows something of what he is talking
about. If he knows something of what he is talking
about, and it is true, it seems to me that the Govern-
ment is simply wasting time.


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The Hon. Minister of State was quite optimistic
that not only would this lead to an improvement in the
Dairy Industry as far as livestock is concerned, but
to reduction in the price of milk. In making these
predictions the Minister made no mention of the
dairy plant having to rely on imported milk. He
assured us of a good supply of milk of good quality
and at a lower price.

I was surprised to hear Senator Ashby get up
with(great authority to tellus that the profitability of
this plant depends on the importation of powdered
milk and that they will have to continue to reply on
this source so that their main interest is the importa-
tion of powdered milk. Where are we?

SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: On the point of order.
Senator Mapp is misinterpreting what I said. I said
that a plant of this type in Barbados must get its
profit from the reconstitution of milk. I never said
what he is saying.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: I do not understand. I
think that I speak English. I said that he said recon-
stituted milk. The impression was that you were not
reconstituting if from local fresh milk, but from im-
ported powdered milk. You do not have to be a genius
to know that. We know that the main profitability of
the plant comes from reconstituted imported milk.
I do not see why the Senator had to get upand inter-
rupt me.

The whole point of his speech was that the plant
will have to continue with the reconstitution of im-
ported powdered milk.

SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: On a point of order.
Senator Mapp is trying to distort everything that I
said. I wound up by saying that if the Government
encouraged the production of fresh milk the importa-
tion of reconstituted milk must go.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Senator Ashby seems to
be getting a bit involved. By the time that he is fin-
ished he will not be clear in his own mind about what
he himself has said. Let us leave itthere and depart
in peace from what he said. We know that the main
profitability comes from the reconstitution of Import-
ed powdered milT.

I was very happy to hear the Minister of State
say that after the importation of these dairy cattle
and the taking of other measures the position will so
improve that the industry will no longer be in the
position that it is now. That is something to which we
look forward.

I see that the Government has been given some
very wise advice about co-operatives and we know
the progress that has been made. I can only hope that
any help which the Canadain Government is willing to
extend to Barbados will be taken advantage of. I feel
that it could be used with advantage in co-operatives
especially among the small producers.


It is an open secret that the planthas been com-
plaining about the quality of the milk supplied to them.
They have complained that the quality is below what
was expected and that they would have to reduce the
price. If this project can improve this condition, I
feel that it will be of great benefit to the' island.
But the whole point is that ifafterwe have taken
this step and made all these efforts to improve the
livestock industry we are still facedwiththe position
that the milk plant must rely for profitability on
supporting foreign industry by importing reconstitu-
ted milk we are defeating the whole object for which
this plant was introduced.

The whole concept behind the plant was that it
would assist local producers and consumers general-
ly. If that is not to be achieved the plant should be
scrapped. After this project is put into operation and
in future years we find that we still have to import
powdered milk the whole idea of the plant should be
scrapped, because it would just be a question of
allowing the commission merchants to rake off more
profits. If that is to be so we can only take a very dim
view of the situation. There is no hope at all.


It may be, Sir, that I heard wrong, or that Sena-
tor Ashby really does not know what he is talking
about. I hope that that is so for his own sake and for
the whole island's sake or all our efforts will be in
vain. Let us get it straight. Senator Ashby is a mem-
ber of the Government party. He hadbetterget clear
in his mind what he means.


SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: Mr. President, I
must thank the hon. Minister of State. I must also
thank the hon. Senator Ashby for throwing a spanner
in his works. When the hon. Minister of State spoke
I was quite optimistic, and he too was optimistic as
to what we were getting, this cheap milk. But when
the hon. Senator Ashby got up and spoke I was very
very pessimistic. After going into all this expense,
we will still continue to import powdered milk from
abroad.

SENATOR S. V. ASHBY: Mr. President, on a
point of order. I was very careful to emphasise that
the whole object of this scheme will be to improve
the supply of fresh milk and to do away with bringing
in powdered milk in the island. I am still hearing it
in the reverse which is ridiculous.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: I only hope that
like Senator Mapp I heard wrong, but I think that the
Importance of this is to give the people in this
country as good a supply of milk as possible and at
as reasonable a price as possible.

SENATOR C. ASQUITH PHILLIPS: Mr. Presi-
dent, I think that it would be fitting for hon. Senators,
even the last two hon. members who spoke, to express
the thanks of the Government of Barbados to the
Government of Canada for the generous terms in











which this offer is being made. From the objects
and reasons of the Bill, it is stated that the loan in
the sum of $250,000 Can. will be free from interest
and other service charges and will be repayable in
80 semi-annual instalments beginning in 1977 so
that Mr. President, it. is clear that there will be a
period of 40 years from 1977 within which this loan
ean be paid, and I think that it is only fitting to ex-
press our thanks to the government of Canada for an
offer of this nature, and to make it clear that we
appreciate very much the meaningful manner in
which this kind of co-operation between this country
and that country is stressed.

The question that the Bill be read a second time
was put to the Senate and agreed to.

Clauses 1 to 4 were called and passed. The
Schedule of the Bill was called and passed.

His Honour the President resumed the Chair and
the passing of the Bill was reported accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator F. C. H. Carew, the
Bill was read a third time and passed.


BILL TO INCORPORATE THE BARBADOS
FAMILY PLANNING ASSOCIATION


Mr. PRESIDENT: The next Order is under Pri-
vate Member's Business and it is a Bill to incorpo-
rate the Barbados Family Planning Association.

This Bill has been referred to a Select Commit-
tee. The Select Committee has reported, under the
chairmanship of Seantor Blackman, and the report
has been circulated to hon. Senators.

Senator Mapp, would you kindly move, under rule
66 of the Standing Orders, section 5, that the report
of the Select Committee on the Bill entitled an Act
to amend the Family Planning Association be adopted.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: I beg to move that the
report of the Select Committee on the Bill to incor-
porate the Barbados Family Planning Association
be adopted.


SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: Ibegtosecond
that.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.


Mr. PRESIDENT: Honourable Senators, under
Standing Order No. 75, Private Bills, section 10, it
is set out that if the Senate, in accordance with order
No. 54 adopts the report of the special Select Com-
mittee, the President shall put the question without
amendment or debate and the Bill be read a third
time. I therefore in accordance with the rule put the
question that this Bill be now read a third time.


The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

Mr. PRESIDENT: The Honourable Minister of
State has pointed out to me that in accordance with
his interpretation of section 10, rule 75, that the hon.
Senator in charge of this Bill should formally move
that it be read a third time. I would be glad if you
would move that, Senator Mapp.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, I beg to
move that this Bill be now read a third time.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: I beg to second
that.


The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

ADJOURNMENT

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, I move that this Senate do now ad-
journ.



SENATOR THE HONOURABLE L. E. SANDIFORD:
I beg to second that.


The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.


The Senate adjourned at 5.43 p.m. sine die .










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SECOND SESSION OF 1966 71


THE SENATE

Thursday, 14th September, 1967.

The Senate met in the Senate Chamber, Public
Buildings, at 3 o' clock p.m. today.



PRESENT

His Honour Senator E. S. ROBINSON, C.B.E.,
(President); His Honour Senator C. Asquith PHILLIPS
B.A., (Deputy President); Senator the Honourable H.
A. VAUGHAN, O.B.E., Q.C., (Minister of State and
Leader of the Senate); Senator the Honourable F. G.
SMITH, Q.C., (Attorney General);Senator the Honour-
able L. E. SANDIFORD, M.A., (Minister of Education)i
Senator H. Odessa GITTENS, M.R.S.H., (Parliament-
ary Secretary); Senator C. L. BRATHWAITE; Senator
E. Lisle WARD; Senator F. C. H. CAREW; Senator
Dr. R. B. CADDLE, B. Sc., M.B.B.S.; Senator D. A.
WILES, C.M.G., O.B.E.; Senator W. W. BLACKMAN,
M.B.E.; Senator Erma V. ROCK; Senator H. F.
ALKINS; Senator P. G. MORGAN;



ABSENT

Senator the Honourable P. M. GREAVES, B.A.,
(Minister of Home Affairs); Senator S. V. ASHBY;
Senator F. L. WALCOIT', O.B.E.; Senator S. A.
BLANCHETTE (On leave); Senator R. G. MAPP;
Senator N. A. BARROW, B.A.;

Prayers were said.

PAPERS

Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan, Minister
of State and Leader of the Senate, laid the following
papers:-


(1) Barbados Statistical Service Quarterly
Digest of Statistics No. 39 December
1966.

(ii) The Civil Establishment (General)
(Amendment) (No. 10) Order, 1967.


(iii) The Customs Duties (Trailers for Trans-
porting Crawler Tractors and Machin-
ery for use in the Sugar Industry) Order,
1967.

(iv) The Property Insurance (Scheduled Sta-
tutory Bodies) Order, 1967.

(v) The Motor Vehicles Insurance (Third
Party Risks) (Amendment) Regulations,
1967.

(vi) The Customs Duties (Amendment) (No.
4) Order, 1967.


(vii) The Customs Duties (Garment Manufac -
ture) (Amendment) Order, 1967.



(viii) Statement showing Net Customs and
Excise Receipts for five (5) months
ended 31st August 1967.

(ix) Report of the Public Utilities Board for
the year 1966.



SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CURRENT)
No. 15


The President called the first Order -A Reso-
tion to place the sum of $1,238 at the disposal of the
Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-68
Part 1 Current as shown in the Supplementary
Estimates, 1967-68 No. 15 which forms the Schedule
to the Resolution.



SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- Earlier this year this Chamber
approved a supplementary Resolution to cover cer-
tain commitments included in which was the sum of
$1,237.50 for that year by way of compensation to
Southern District Council's employees who, among
other employees, had been paid off as having been
redundant.











The Resolution was approved by Parliament late
in the financial year, I think in February, and the
name of an employee was inadvertently committed.
This Resolution seeks to remedy that omission of the
Local Government employee stated in the Addendum
as Mr.N. C. Brathwaite, who was employed by the
Southern District Council.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator C. L. Brathwaite seconded the motion.
The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE EXPENDITURE

UNDER HARBOURS ACT

The President called the secondOrder- A Res-
olution to approve under Section 10 of the Barbados
Harbours Act, 1960, the expenditure of $700 required
to supplement the Estimates of the Port Department
for the year 1967-68 as shown in the Schedule to the
Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- The sum of $700 asked for in this
Resolution is to replace the water cooler in the Cus -
toms Baggage Hall in the Port Department for the
benefit of officers of the department and members of
the public who happen to go to that department.

What has happened is that the water cooler which
was there for some time has seen better days, andhas
actually been condemned by a Board of Survey. The
cooler which was condemned on the 13th February,
1967, was damaged beyond repair so as to prevent
the freezer from cutting out. It is considered more
economical to purchase a new unit. Normally these
units can be repaired whenthe pipes andtanks blow
up, but it is not considered that it would be worth-
while to repair this, bearing in mind the cost of a
new unit.

Furthermore, Sir, this water cooler, I under-
stand, was not of the type best suited for the purpose
for which it was being used. A cooler which was likely
to be the subject of abuse should be a heavy duty type,
and it is proposed that the present water cooler should
be replaced by one whichhas a stainless steel cabinet
and a capacity of approximately 20 gallons an
hour.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator F. C. Carew seconded the motion.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.


SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES (CURRENT)
No. 17

The President called the third Order A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $2,243 at the disposal of the
Government to supplement the Estimates 1967-68
Part 1 Current as shown in the Supplementary
Estimates, 1967-68 No. 17 which forms the Schedule
to the Resolution.


SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- A few weeks ago this Chamber
concurred in a Resolution approving the Civil Es-
tablishment (General) (Amendment) (No. 9) Order
which provided for an increase in the staff of the
Establishments Division. The Resolution now before
the Senate is to provide certain amenities and the
requisite furniture for the increased staff.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator C. L. Brathwaite seconded the motion.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

BILL TO AMEND OVERSEAS SERVICE AGREE-
MENT ACT, 1963
The President called the fourth Order A Bill
to amend the Overseas Service Agreement Act, 1963.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, --There is inexistence at the mo-
ment an agreement between the Governments of Bar-
bados and the U.K. by which certain allowances are
paid to expatriate officers recruited abroad for
services in this territory. That agreement forms the
Schedule to the 1963 Service Agreement Act.

The British Government has had under consid-
eration since 1964 the feasibility of enlarging those
privileges which are extended to officers. Iwill give
an instance of what the agreement provides for. Under
that agreement, all children of those officers who are
prescribed in the Act and who are at school outside
the territory, are permitted ifthey are no less than
eight years of age and if they are not more than 19
years of age to visit their parents here once in every
12 months of the officer's period of employment.

Well, Sir, the British Government had under
consideration, and it was actually proposed to this
Government, that if that privilege were amplified
it would be a greater inducement to that type of
officer to come and serve in whatwere then the col-
onies that is, if their children over 19 and not yet
21 years of age were allowed to visit their parents
on the same terms as those between eight and 19,
and that those between eight and 19 should be able
to visit their parents twice every 12 months.

The Government put up a stand again st that part-
ly because it was felt that educational facilities here
are adequate, and partly because the privileges ex-
tended to the officers under the agreement were also
adequate, and in any event, because we did not think
that this Government should be responsible for con-
tributing towards that expense.

Eventually the British Government, after a good
deal of correspondence to andfro,agreedto pay the
full cost so that the expense of bringing these children
between the age of eight and 21 will fall entirely on
the British Government.

The position is, Mr. President, that the present
Act has been, from the point of viewof Her Majesty's


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Government amply modified, and since the Act is a
local statute, it has become necessary for us to
amend the Act. That is why this Bill is before this
Chamber.

I move, Sir, that the Bill be read a second time.

Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.


The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.


On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator F. C. H. Carew, the
Senate went into Committee on the Bill, Senator C.
Asquith Phillips in the Chair.

Clauses 1 3 of the Bill were called and passed
with debate.


The question that the passing of the Bill be re-
ported to the Senate was put and agreed to.

His Honour the President resumed the Chair and
the passing of the Bill in Committee was reported
accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable F. G.
Smith, the Bill was read a third time and passed.



ADJOURNMENT


On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable F. G.
Smith, the Senate adjourned at 3.25 p.m.
(sine die).










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SENATE


DEBATES


(OFFICIAL REPORT)


SECOND SESSION OF 1966 71


THE SENATE

Thursday, 21st September, 1967
The Senate met in the Senate Chamber, Public-
Buildings, at 3 o' clock p.m. today.

PRESENT

His Honour Senator E. S. ROBi93SON, C.B.E., (Pre-
sident); His Honour Senator C. Asquith PHILLIPS,
B.A., (Deputy President); Senator the Honourable
H.A. VAUGHAN, O.B.E., Q.C., (Ministerof State and
Leader of the Senate); Senator the Honourable P. M.
GREAVES, B.A., (Minister of Home Affairs); Senator
the Honourable F. G. SMITH, Q.C., (Attorney Gen-
eral); Senator the Honourable L. E. SANDIFORD,
M.A., (Minister of Education); Senator H. Odessa
GITTENS, M.R.S.H., (Parliamentary Secretary);
Senator C. L. BRATHWAITE; Senator E. Lisle WARD;
Senator F. C. H. CAREW; Senator Dr. R.B. CADDLE,
B. Sc., M.B.B.S.; Senator D. A. WILES, C. M. G.,
O.B.E.; Senator W. W. BLACKMAN, M.B.E.; Senator
Erma V. ROCK; Senator H. F. ALKINS; Senator R.G.
MAPP;

ABSENT

Senator S. V. ASHBY (On leave); Senator F. L.
WALCOTT, O.B.E.; Senator S. A. BLANCHETTE (On
leave); Senator N. A. BARROW, B.A.; Senator P. G.
MORGAN;

Prayers were said.

ANNOUNCEMENTS

His Honour the President read the texts of the
following letters: -

(i) A letter from the Permanent Secretary to the
Prime Minister, conveying on behalf of the
Government of Canada and Madame Vanier
their appreciation of the Senate's message of
sympathy on the occasion of the passing of
Mr. George Vanier, late Governor-General
of Canada.

(ii) A letter from Lady Chandler to the Clerk of
the Senate expressing her appreciation of the
Senate's message of sympathy on the occa-
sion of the passing of her late husband Sir
John Chandler.


SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CURRENT)
No. 18

The President called the first O rder A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $5,971 at the disposal of
the Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-
68 Part 1 as shown in the Supplementary Estimates,
1967-68 No. 18 which forms the Schedule to the Re-
solution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President,-- The object of this Resolution is to
get an order to finance certain essential items for
work on the Financial Buildings. This matter has a
rather long history.

As members are no doubt aware, the cost of
erecting the financial buildings as estimated at
January, 1964, was estimated at $1,160,000. In June
this year it was estimated that the cost would be
another $434,000. This second estimate included the
cost of redesigning the Fountain Gardens and the
alignment of the roads in that area. That part of the
exercise was estimated to cost something like $23,
000.

The difference between this $434,000 and the
original estimate was partly covered by the amount
included in the Estimates this year of $316,000. The
uncompleted portion of the work at the 4th of June
this year was, after a detailed survey, estimated to
cost $57,124.

Now, Sir, the building is nearing completion; and
certain items which are necessary for the sake of
convenience and security have to be provided. A sum
of $28,971 is required to do thatpartof the work. It
is proposed to obtain that sum partly by diverting the
$23,000 which, as I said earlier, was earmarked for
redesigning the Fountain Gardens and the surround-
ing roads and partly by asking Parliament for this
supplementary vote of $5,971.

I may say that the diversion of this amount will
not necessitate any amendment to the Estimates. All
that we have to do is to come to Parliament and ask
for the difference between the two sums, which is
$5,971.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.











Senator the Hon. P. M. Greaves seconded the
motion.

SENATOR D. A. WILES: Mr. President,--We
know that these are essential items; but we must
assume that these changes must have been made after
the architects prepared their first estimate. I think
that there has been some public concern over the
time which it has taken to complete this building. I
wonder if the Minister can give us some indication
as to when it is expected that the building will be
ready for completion, and if any decision has been
made as to what departments will be housed in it when
the day of completion dawns.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President,--This is
a building which it was supposed would be completed al-
most two years ago; but work on it seems to be going
on and on as well as up andup; and the community is
wondering when this process will come to an end.

I think that we can all remember that on the last
occasion when the Government came for a supple-
mentary vote no one was sure as to what types of
changes were envisaged by the Government. They
were not set out clearly. I think that we had to drag
out of the spokesman for the Government that there
was to be some redesigning and some realignment,
and some things not set out in the Addendum.

One of the distinguished senators triedto assure
us in an off hand manner that wages had gone up, and
I think that it was the Attorney General who told us
what the changes were and what it was proposed to
do. We were very grateful.

There still seems to be some chopping and
changing. Now as far as we can iaderstand we
are postponing the redesigningof the Fountain Gar-
dens which means either that the Gardens will re-
main as they are, or at some future date the Govern-
ment will come back for a further $23,000 for
redesigning the Fountain Gardens. I hope that the
Minister will be able to tell us what the position is.

If the Minister can assure us that they really
mean to redesign the Fountain Gardens and that this
is simply a postponement I think that it would en-
lighten the public to a considerable extent. What is
going to happen? Not redesigning the Gardens will
simply make this monstrosity more of a monstros-
ity than it is.

All the Town Planning advice that we had when
we were in the Government was that a structure in
that space would be wrong and would not fit in with
the character of the City of Bridgetown.

All of us who happen to know, know that in all
these choppings and changes acting Heads have left
and Heads have left. We know that there have been
difficulties with staff and we know that people were
partly in charge who did not have the necessary exper-
ience. They may have been academically competent,
but they did not have the experience. The Government
-therefore was putting a work of this magnitude into


the hands of youngsters. Iam not going to call names;
but if I am challenged I will. Some of them have left
the island and some may still be here.

We hope that the Government will take a lesson
from what has happened and see that men of consider-
able experience are put in charge of such large under-
takings. When we were in the Government we had
caustic remarks and aspersions cast at us in
connection with the erection of the Ministerial
Buildings; but we finished them on time and at a cost
that surprised everyone. We are not saying that we
were geniuses, but at that time we had Captain
Tomlin, and maybe we were fortunate in that respect.
We had also Seawell Airport and the Queen Elizabeth
Hospital.

HIS HONOUR THE PRESIDENT: I hope that the
Senator will not give us a historical review of the
building projects of the past Government.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: No, Sir. I am onlymaking
a comparison because I know that people are saying
-- and this comes from the Government itself-- that
the Government should hand over these things to
private contract. If this sort of thing continues, of
course the Government might well have to hand them
over to private contractors with a view to getting
proper supervision and proper men on the job so that
the work can be done on time andwithin the estimated
cost. It is not an idle boast that I was making or a
personal reflection, but something based on fact.

We are now asked to vote $5,971 which is in
fact $28,591, and I hope that the Government will
come back down especially in respect to plumbing
because we know what happened about plumbing at the
Hilton Hotel.

We must have people who know what they are
about. Not merely to rely on people from overseas,
but to have someone who knows local conditions.
Now, Sir, I see that we will get part of these funds
by diverting money originally proposed for redesigning
the Fountain Gardens. I believe that sometime ago
we had a serious report from the Auditor General
relative to certain discrepancies and irregularities
as far as certain departments were concerned. One
of the Ministries concerned was the Minister of
Communications and Works. The Auditor General
stated that he could not get the necessary information
that he should be given. That funds were being
switched and he was not informed etc.
I just want to say that as farthe diversion of these
funds is concerned I hope we will not get the Auditor
General stating in a report that something was done
contrary to the law. We are here to watch the funds of
the taxpayers and to see that the law is carried out.
So far, Sir, we have had a good reputation. I am
not saying that there has been corruption, but accord-
ing to the Auditor General certain things have been
done which should not have been done.We have held
our heads above water in the past, and I hope that in
this case the letter of the law will be carried out.


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SENATOR H. F. ALKINS: Mr. President, I am
not opposing this Resolution because Ithink we should
do everything to end the rigor mortis which has
appeared to be stealing over this building. Having
gone so far, I think we have no alternative but to go
on, but there are just one or two observations I would
like to make; one is in regardto the Addendum. Time
was when the Addendumto a Resolution of this nature
was such that one could read it and intelligibly ap-
preciate the note for such an amount of money that is
being asked for. I would defy anybody to read this and
really appreciate the need for this money, which is
being asked for.

The Hon. Minister has provided us with a lot of
the missing information but it is nothing that could
not be included in the Addendum. It would have saved
a lot of time and trouble, and probably a lot of ques-
tions. If I heard the Hon. Minister correctly, I heard
him mention things like waterproofing of the roof,
balustrades for staircases, and so on. Surely Sir,
these are not extras, these are the essential items
which should have been included from the beginning. I
too am wondering what is going to happen with the
Fountain Gardens and the adjoining place there; if
you use the money formerly allocated what are you
going to do? You are goingto have to come back again
and it would seem to me to have been better to make
one shot at it.

As I said, I am not opposingthe Resolution, but
those are a few thoughts that occurred to me as I
listened to the introductory remarks and the various
remarks of other speakers.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE F. G. SMITH:
Mr. President, just one or two things Iwould like to
say. The Government having to bring down a Reso-
lution of this kind to this House, dealing with that
building, is just as worried as anybody else in having
to do it. I can say that the Government is not satis-
fied either with the time or with the demands for
more money from time to time; as a matter of fact,
the Government is so dissatisfied that the Government
is reconsidering in due course its attitude towards
majorpublic works of this kind; we are not satisfied be-
cause we were promised it long ago. Departments are
sitting on the heads of one another because the depart-
ments which are to be shifted the e cannot be moved
due to the difficulties beyond the Government's con-
trol, and the Hon. Senator Mapp would know that any-
thing Government puts itself in today is costing more
than in private enterprise. The workers work less,
they expect more in terms of benefits, they do not
give a full day's work for a full day's pay as they
would have to do if Supervisors were over them from
time to time. They seem to think that the Government
is a milch cow, and that the taxpayers could always
find extra money.

I am not condoning this, Government is not here
because we are condoning the delays of Public Works;
this is a classic example- and every member from
the Hon. Prime Minister down is thinking about what
we have to do in these cases. It is with a heavy heart
and with the sympathy of this hon. Senate that we have


brought this; Resolution. We have not brought a Reso-
lution for more money, but we are revising the plans
for the Fountain Gardens because we do not think it
is pertinent at this stage. That is not priority, and
this is something we will have to consider if we are
satisfied; in due course the Government will have the
answer for redesigning the Fountain Gardens. This
is the main purpose of this Resolution, to get the
people involved to serve the public in comfort and
peace, and to the satisfaction of all who have to use
the building.

I am terribly dissatisfied with the way this
building has been going, with the length of time it has
taken to be built. We are considering in the new
Development Plan what our attitude will be to major
capital works.

SENATOR W.W. BLACKMAN: Mr. President, I
must compliment the Hon. Attorney General for the
straightforward and frank statement which he has
made toward this building. There can be no doubt
about it that the Government has been taken for a ride,
both the Government and the taxpayers of this country.
I hope that this is the last we will hear of this building,
and I share the views of the Hon. Senator Wiles that
the Minister of State will be able to tell us something
about the finality of this building.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, there is little I have to add by way of
what has been said by the last speaker on this side of
the table with respect to the disappointment of the
Government at the non-completion of this building
within what had been originally envisaged as a rea-
sonable time. There is no point my repeating what
Senator Smith has said, I would address myself rather
to answer some of the questions that have been asked
this afternoon.

Senator Wiles asked a question and I very much
regret that I do not have the information on this file.
I think that inthis Chambereverymemberwho asks a
question is entitled to have that information as full and
as accurate as the Government at the time is in a posi-
tion to give, and rather than giving halfway information
which might be misleading, I would prefer to defer that
information until some other occasion. I will promise
Senator Wiles that I will on my own initiative and I
would not even wait until the next sitting of this
Chamber I will convey to him the information which
he seeks, and if he will regard it as adequate I will be
quite willing I cannot at this moment, for instance,
say exactly what particular departments will be in
the new building.

When the matter first came before the Cabinet a
tentative list was drawn up, that was 1963 or 1964, of
the departments which it was proposed to set up in the
financial building. Since then that list has undergone
some slight revision, again tentative, and as one can
see, the whole history of this exercise has been one
of change. I say that, not by way of excuse, but rather
by way of justification. It is the same thing for the
date of completion. Any person erecting a building
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considerable margin of safety, he would say this is
going to be completed on, say, the 29th December,
1967. When he fixed that date, he must have designed
to have the building completed in October, 1967. That
is not how it is done in Public Works, and rather than
give Senator Wiles a false impression, either in whole
or in part, of the date, even approximately, of the
proposed completion of the financial building, Iwould
prefer if you would allow me to postpone answering
those two questions until Ihave the full information.

Now, the remarks made by Senator Mapp. One is
the comment that this building is a monstrosity. Some
people do not like modern or contemporary music; any
person who has had anything to do with architecture
knows that one of the most remarkable developments
of modern architecture and modern furnishings is that
of planning and erecting buildings in a contemporary
style which harmonise with their surroundings. It is
the same thing in furnishing rooms. One of the most
attractive instances of modern expertise in furnishing
is that of mixing period furniture with modern
furniture. It calls for great skill, it calls for great
taste. I for one cannot stand here and allow the re-
marks to go unchallenged, that it will not harmonise
with the other buildings; when the building has been
used for some time and the public eye has got ac-
customed to it......

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: On a point of order, I
did not say it would not harmonise with the other
buildings. I said it did not harmonise with what is
needed.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
I am sorry if I misunderstood the Senator, but my
comment on what he said, that the Government was
advised that a building of that kind would not har-
monise with the other buildings. I may be wrong, but
that is what I heard him say.

As to other remarks with respect to the com-
ments of the Auditor General and so on, I have this
only to say. Senator Mapp seems to fear that this
Government is pulling a fast one over Parliament by
diverting from its original purpose and the sanction
of Parliament and substituting a sum of money with-
out first obtaining appropriate legislative approval
in that diversion. Sir, I thought I had made it abun-
dantly clear that there was no need whatever to ask
for a change in the note to the estimate. But in order
to make assurance doubly sure to those who are so
very unsure, I will now refer to a note in this file
in which it is hinted that the Senior Parliamentary
Counsel, no less a person than Mr. Nicholls, advised
that it was not necessary to prepare a Resolution
seeking a reallocation of $23,000 since there was no
stipulation in the relevant note in the estimates, and
I can assure Hon. members that Ihave looked that up
myself and have satisfied myself about it. More than
that, if there were any doubt as to the legality of the
procedure, the matter would have to be referred to the
Attorney General who is the legal adviser to Govern-
ment, and there is nothing in this file to show that the
Attorney General differs with the Parliamentary
Counsel.


It is so easy to make this sort of suggestion when
making an accusation as to put in the mind of any
reasonable person a feeling that although a particular
procedure is not proven to be wrong, yet there is a
great possibility that it may not be entirely right.
There is absolutely nothingwrong with it whatsoever.
So as far as that is concerned Senator Mapp and any
others who think that way may rest assured that there
is nothing wrong with it at all.

I am sorry to hear Senator Alkins refer to rigor
mortis. I will assure the worthy Senator for whose
policy and whose viability Ihavethe greatest respect,
that the building is neither rigor mortis nor post
humus. It has not come to completion on the date
originally fixed, but it is proceeding towards finality
and what we have asked for is absolutelynecessary.

Now, Sir, lastly, there is, as Iunderstand it, no
intention to abandon the redesigningof the Fountain
Gardens. It is simply that a part of the exercise has
simply been postponed for reasons which have been
explained by a member of Government. What is pro-
posed is that the wall of the Fountain Gardens which
was damaged will be restored and the road will be
resurfaced; that is not a matter which is absolutely
essential. One misunderstanding in erecting abuild-
ing,- where vast sums of money are being spent, one
has to preserve the largest balance between utility
and aesthetic and if the aesthetic part of your struc -
ture is going to outweigh utilityor vice versa. Then
you have to ask yourself whether or not you will
commit yourself to heavy aesthetic expenditure, and
to see how the building from the utilitarian
point of view has cost too much. Government does
not feel justified to ask at this moment for a further
sum of money for merely redesigning the Gardens
and give the building those highly aesthetic surround-
ings which it requires. No doubt this will come in
time.
The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put to the Senate and agreed to.

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CURRENT) No. 19

The President called the next Order- A Resolu-
tion to place the sum of $16,450 at the disposal of the
Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-68
Part 1 Current as shown in the Supplementary
Estimates, 1967-68 No. 19 which forms the Schedule
to the Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, the first item in this Resolution, Head
3, Item 21 Reporting. This request-for a supple-
mentary has been necessitated by an increase in the
emoluments for the Reporters of the Legislature. As
a result it has been necessary to seek approval from
Parliament for a further sum of $11,000.

In so far as the Commonwealth Parliamentary
Association is concerned Sir, members will recollect
that quite recently the Association's local branch
elected two of its members to represent this territory
at the forthcoming conference in Uganda, and there
is also the Heads of Government conference to take
place here next month.


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The third item, the amount asked for is in aid
of the proper facilities at the Oistins Public Health
Clinic. Up to the present and since the inception of
that clinic in 1960, drugs were stored at the Christ
Church Infirmary, but recently the Medical Officer
of Health has found this arrangement most unsatis-
factory, and the dissatisfactionhas increased because
of the increased use to which the clinic is being put.
I have some figures before me; the numbers have
risen from 60 to at least 100 per day; when medicine
has to be taken from the Infirmary and taken over to
the clinic, it means that there is sometimes loss or
breakage. Apart from this, it is a waste of time going
over there, taking the medicine out of the refrigerator
and then carrying it to the clinic, leaving it there to
be used and then taking it back over, so it is proposed
to get a small refrigerator to be installed at the clinic
to keep the medicine. I move that this Resolution be
concurred in.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE L.E.SANDIFORD:
I beg to second that.

SENATOR H. F. ALKINS: Mr. President, I should
like to make a few remarks under Reporting, Head 3,
Item 21. This matter before us is closely tied up with
the question of the publication of the debates of the
Legislature. You know, Sir, I was asked to represent
this Chamber on the Debates Committee which is the
body responsible for the publication of the debates of
both Houses. The Debates Committee, Sir, consists
at the present time of 8 people, 7 appointed by the
Other Place, and one appointed by this Chamber. The
Chairman is His Honour the Speaker. From time to
time, Sir, you have asked me questions as to the
delay in the publication of the Reports andDebates,
and you have also written to the Chairman of the
Debates Committee on this matter, so if you will
permit me, I think this will be a suitable occasion on
which I might comment on this particular subject.

Mr. PRESIDENT: Permission granted.

SENATOR H. F. ALKINS: First of all, inasmuch
as the Debates Committee is responsible forthe pub-
lication of the debates, I have always felt and still
feel that I should not be making a statement off my
own back on the subject, and Ihave so expressed my-
self to you, Sir, from time to time. Over two months
ago, I wrote to the Chairman of the Debates Com-
mittee and stated that I was being asked for this
report and would like to make one. I felt it my duty
to make one, but I thought itwouldbe far better for a
joint statement to be made and presented to the Other
Place and to this Senate, rather thanI should make a
report on my own.

Well, Sir, the usual thing happened. Three meet-
ings have been called since then, and these were all
abortive owing to the fact that aquorum could not be
obtained. This, Sir, is an extremely frustrating thing,
and many of us have had this unpleasant experience
of attending consecutive abortive meetings. Since I
have been on this Debates Committee, I have found
the functions very inefficient, and one can only say
one experiences a feeling offrustration,so much so


that I have been thinking very seriously of asking you
to relieve me of the responsibility of representing
this Senate on that committee. There is an extremely
casual approach to the whole thing, and there is also
careless and inefficient staff work, and no proper
coordination of the work of the Reporters. The result,
Sir, is that the debates of both places are lagging far
behind.

Now, I am going to report specifically on the
debates of the Senate. The position at thelpresent time.
I have asked the Clerk to bring me up-to-date and he
has given me a statement which shows that at the
present time there are 30 reports of Senate meetings
not yet published. Of these six are in the hands of the
printers, seven are in the hands of the Clerk for
proofing and seventeen have not been received from
the Reporter. These include a meeting in September
1966 and the debates from February 1967 to date. I
consider this, Sir, to be very unsatisfactory.

The reason given by our Reporter for the delay
in producing these reports is that he is a part-time
employee of ours, and-the requirements of his sub-
stantive job are such that he is forced to be behind
hand in the reportingwork done forthis Senate. Now,
Sir, however much I sympathise with him in his plight
I am afraid that I personally cannot accept this as a
satisfactory excuse. I would accept it as a satisfactory
excuse for temporary back logs, but I do not think -
and I have told him this, he has been told this by the
Debates Committee I do not think that it is a suffi-
cient explanation on back logs extending for such long
periods of time.

Not long ago the debates were 15 months behind
hand. The position is now very much better, butwe
are still some seven to eight months behind hand. In
his favour I must add, Sir, that owing to illness on the
part of Reporters in the Other Place, he has had to be
called in to help out with their reporting, and this has
intensified the problem. Now the question arises as to
what is to be done to remedy this state of affairs. This
of course, is a matter forthe Debates Committee to
make a recommendation. I personally feel that the
business of this Senate has so much increased that
we should have a full-time Reporter, I and that we
should make our own arrangements for handling our
debates. I am sorry to have to say this, because I
certainly feel that a joint arrangement is a better
arrangement; it would cover things like illness,
leave, and things of that nature, where you have
everything in one central spot with an adequate and
efficient staff.


The Debates Committee has made certain re-
commendations for the improvement in the reporting
and the printing of the debates. These recommenda-
tions, so far as I know, were submitted to Government
last December and they included also an increase in
Sthe emoluments of the Reporters. I can only assume
from this Resolution which we are now considering,
Sir, that the recommendations with regard to em-
oluments have been accepted, but the other recom-
mendations have not been decided on, but as I said


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Sir, I consider the whole position unsatisfactory, and -
I consider the whole situation personally frustrating.

I would further support this Resolution, Sir, for
increased emoluments of the Reporters. Reporting
work is extremely hard; it is a very difficult thing
and one cannot easily replace Reporters, and I feel
that they are entitled to this increase, but that must
be coupled with the statement that if a man expects
to get an increase in emoluments, he must do his job,
and delay in doing his job cannot be considered ef-
ficient.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, -Ithink
that we are all very grateful to Senator Alkins for the
manner in which he has carried out his duties as our
representative on the Debates Committee. I happened
to be a member of that Committee when I was in the
Other Place and it was cleareveninthose days that
the machinery of reporting andprintingtheDebates
of the Legislature was hopelessly outdated.

Since then' there has been even greater demand
on the time of Parliament and on the time of the Re-
porters and yet we find that the machinery is still
almost the same. I do not think that any of us will say
that the position is good enough.

But the point is that while we all realise this,
nothing has been done to correct it. From the time that
I was here I have been hearing about appointing an
Editor of Debates. The day is long pastwhen we can
expect part time staff to cope with the work. Accord-
ing to Senator Alkins' report, in January 20 debates
were in the hands of the printers and 17 not yet re-
ceived from the Reporter, making a total of 37 out-
standing. Now, while others have been handed in the
position seems to remain the same.

Now, Sir, I think that it is unfortunate that this
matter had to be raised in the Senate and not in a
committee because obviously the Reporter cannot
defend himself. While we are not saying that he has
been charged unfairly, I repeat that the day is long
past when we should be considering people doing part
time work. We are continually saying so, and yet
nothing is done.

This is a serious matter. I take up the Official
Gazette and I read reports of debates that took place
during the last parliamentary session. The public is
dissatisfied over the situation.



SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
I would just like to say in reply to the points made,
and about the situation of which senators so justly
complain, that the position is that inthis island there
is a dearth of people capable of doing this sort of
reporting; and the increases in the salaries of Re-
porters recommended by the Debates Committee and
reflected in the Resolution is a stepbyway of getting
people who are able to do the work and who would
regard the salary as a sufficient attraction to give of
their full time.


If this is realized, then I feel sure that members
will need to have no fear in the future about the re-
porting and transcribing of the Debates.

The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put to the Senate and agreed to.

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CURRENT)
No. 20

The President called the third Order A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $21,666 at the disposal of
the Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-
68 Part 1 Current as shown in thje Supplementary
Estimates, 1967-68 No. 20 which forms the Schedule
to the Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- As Senators will recollect, there
was a revision of the salaries of Civil Servants and
those who received the enhancedemoluments receiv-
ed them from the beginning of the financial year. Due
to the rush all officers who wereentitledto payment
of retrospective emoluments were not paid and that
sum totals $21,101.81. The rest of the amount is to
pay honoraria to six officers who hadto do special
work outside normal working hours inorderto effect
payment of arrears.

The Accountant General has commented favour-
ably on the work of these officers, the long hours they
worked and the fact that theyworked on Saturdays and
Sunday. It has been thought fit to pay the honoraria
which bring the Resolution to the amount of $21,66.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator the Hon. F. G. Smith seconded the motion.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CAPITAL)
No. 21

The President called the fourth Order --A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $224 at the disposal of the
Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-68
Part II Capital as shown inthe Supplementary Es-
timates, 1967-68 No. 21 which forms the Schedule to
the Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- This sum of $224 is also to cover
arrears of salaries and wages resulting from revision
of salaries last year. This comes underthe Head,
Prime Minister's Office, and is in respect of the Soil
Conservation Department and the Hilton Hotel. The
principle involved is the same as in the last Resolu-
tion.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator the Hon. P. M. Greaves seconded the
motion.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.


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CIVIL ESTABLISHMENT (GENERAL) (AMEND-
MENT) (No. 10) ORDER

The President called the fifth Order --A Reso-
lution to give effect to the Civil Establishment
(General) (Amendment), (No. 10 ) Order, 1967.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -" This Order contemplates changes
in the personnel of two departments one the Audit
Department and the other the Economic Planning
Unit. The notes in the Addendum of the Resolution
are adequate and Page 2 of the Addendum sets out
the present staff and the proposed changes as far as
the Audit Department is concerned.

It is now proposed to have aDeputyAditor Gen-
eral to replace the post of Assistant Auditor General.
The proposed change reflects as clearly as one could
wish the increased range and complexity of the duties


of that department as a result of the increased range
and Icomplexity of Government business.

What is needed is not merely an Assistant, but
a Deputy Auditor General, one who can take high level
decisions on his own. The change is also reflected in
the difference in salary. The Assistant Auditor Gen-
eral gets $8,160 a year and it is proposed that the
Deputy Auditor General shouldget $9,600 year.

Sir, the same principle applies to the other posts.
I do not wish to tire Senators by reading out all the
details. If there is any aspect of this Resolution on
which they might require detailed information I will
give it.
The same thing applies to the other part of the
Resolution which deals with the Economic Planning
Unit. I do not think that I could do better than to refer
members to this part of the Addendum which sets out
the details as follows:


(a) Audit Department

A change in the staff structure of the Audit Department as under--


Present


Proposed


1 Auditor General $11,040
1 Assistant Auditor General $8,160
1 Senior Auditor $6,120- 7,320
2 Auditor $4,860- 5,940
3 Senior Examiner $4,140- 5,220
8 Examiner $3,600- 4,680
22 Clerical Officer $1,320 3,420
1 Secretary $3,780 4,680
1 Stenographer $1,440 3,600
('A or 'B')
1 Messenger $1,392 2,088


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The proposed re-organisation of the staff struc-
ture is necessary to enable the Department to ade-
quately cope with the increased demands made on it
as a result of the constant expansion in the activities
of the Government.

Deputy Auditor General

This post which replaces that of AssistantAudi-
tor General is designed to relieve the Auditor General
of some of the many administrative duties requiring
his personal attention. A Deputy exercises a more
independent command than an Assistant. It is also
intended to redress the imbalance in salary between
the Auditor General as Head of Department and his
second-in-command.

Senior Examiners

The knowledge and expertise required of these
officers is consistent with that of Accountant ($4,860
-5,940) and since they are required, to great extent


1 Auditor General $11,040
1 Deputy Auditor General $9,600
2 Senior Auditor $6,120 7,320
6 Auditor $4,860 5,940

10 Examiner $3,600 4,680
24 Clerical Officer $1,320 3,420
1 Secretary $3,780 4,680
1 Stenographer $1,440 3,600
('A' or 'B')
1 Messenger $1,392 2,088


to work un-supervised it is considered that the re-
sponsibilities justify replacing the post of Senior
Examiner ($4,140 5,220) by that of Auditor ($4,860-
5,940).


Senior Auditor
Examiner
Clerical Officer


With the coming into force of the Financial Ad-
ministration and Audit Act, 1964, the work-load
placed on the Department has increased considerably.
The additional staff is required in order to cope
efficiently with the increased duties.


The Senior Auditorwill, in the main, assist in the
general supervision and co-ordination of the audit
programme relating to District Authorities in ad-
dition to normal audit duties.











(b) Economic Planning Unit
A re-organisation of the establishment structure of the Economic Planning Unit as under -


Present
Director $11,040
Economist $5,580 9,000
Administrative Assistant
$4,860 5,940
Clerical Officer $1,320 3,420
Stenographer $2,340 3,600


Proposed
1 Director $11,040
2 Senior Economist $6,300 9,000
2 Economist $4,860 8,040

1 Clerical Officer $1,320 3,420
( Stenographer $2,340 3,600
2 Typist $1,440 2,220


The increase in staff is required to assist the
present staff complement to cope adequately with the
work-load placed on the Unit as aresultof the Gov-
erment's increasing involvement in international
economic affairs and the proposed transfer of the
subject of Technical Assistance from the Ministry
of Finance.

Senior Economist

One post of Senior Economist ($6,300 9,000)
will replace the existing post of Economist ($5,580-
9,000) and the additional post is provided to secure
the services of either a qualifiedAgricultural Econo-
mist or an officer with special advanced training in
this branch of Economics.

Economist


The two posts of Economist will replace the two
posts of Administrative Assistant at present assigned
to the Unit. The proposed salary ($4,860 8,040) is
designed to encourage Economists to remain in the
Unit for long periods.

Stenographer/ Typist

It is considered that with the expansion of the
activities of the Unit, it will be necessary to provide
a second post of Stenographer/ Typist.

Cost

The additional cost of the above adjustments in
staff totals $42,780 at mean salaries.



I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.


Senator the Honourable L. E. Sandiford seconded
the motion.


SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, I do
not think that any member would have the temerity
to disagree as a whole with theseproposed changes.
But there are one or two things on certain of the pro -
posed changes on which I would like to comment.


I see that it is proposedto have a Deputy Auditor
General at a salary of $9,600 a year as against the
salary of the present Assistant Auditor General which
is $8,160. The note says that it is intended to redress
the imbalance in salary between the Auditor General
as Head of Department and his second-in-command,

Now, Sir, none of us is an expert on salary im-
balances etc. Those of us with some experience know
that there is always a danger which Government
faces when there is a salary revision.

One of the reasons given for this adjustment is
that the staff of the department has more to do with
the increased responsibility thrown on their
shoulders because of the National Insurance Scheme.
But the same thing could be said about the Postmaster
General. The salary of the Postmaster General is
$10,080 a year which is only $40 a month more than
the salary proposed for the Deputy Auditor General,
and the Postmaster General is Head of a Department.

It is in this way that all the trouble starts when-
ever there is a salary revision. No one can expect
that the Postmaster General will feel satisfied. We
all know about the interplay of these things, and we
feel it our duty to warn the Government that as soon
as you start tinkering inone direction you will get a
general reaction from all sides.

I do not know, but this may be a recommendation
of the head of the Civil Service, or may be arecom-
mendation from a higher quarter and we have nothing
against it. It is well deserved, and others may be well
deserving as well. I hope that the Government has
taken that into consideration because if it is based on
the argument put up by the Minister, I do not see how
they can ignore the claims of other departments. And
there we will be going around the Mulberry Bush.

I agree with the provision for a Senior Econo-
mist as well as the two posts of Economist. I take it
that these officers are qualified Agricultural Econo-
mists, or that at least they know something about
Agriculture. I am glad to see that. For years it has
been admitted that in view of the importance of Agri-
culture to the island the Government should have at its
disposal some post such as this. I am glad to see that
at long last this provision has been made.













That is not to say that there are not a lot of other"
posts in Agriculture that the Government has not told
us that they are are not trying to fill. I hope that we
are not stressing one angle and not taking a wide
view. There is need for quick action in this respect
because you cannot play around with this most im-
portant branch of Government.




SENATOR THE HONOURABLE F. G. SMITH:
Mr. President, I would like to take this opportunity
to give information, not so much to this honourable
Senate, but to the public at large who must know the
intention of this Government.

I shall read briefly from section 113 of the
Constitution of Barbados:

(1) There shall be an Auditor-General,
whose office shall be a public office.

(2) The accounts of the Supreme Court, the
Senate, the House of Assembly and all departments
and offices of the Government (including the offices
of the Cabinet, the Privy Council, the Judicial and
Legal Service Commission, the Public Service Com-
mission and the Police Service Commission but
excluding the department of the Auditor General)
shall, at least once in every year, be audited and
reported on by the Auditor-General who, with his
subordinate staff, shall at all times be entitled to
have access to all books, records, returns and
reports relating to such accounts.

(3) The Auditor-General shall submit his
reports made under subsection (2) to the Speaker (or
if the office ofSpeakerisvacantorthe Speaker is for
any reason unable to perform the functions of his
office, to the Deputy Speaker) who shall cause them
to be laid before the House of Assembly.

(4) In the exercise of his functions under
the provisions of subsections (2) and (3), the Auditor-
General shall not be subject to the direction or con-
trol of any other person or authority.

(5) The accounts of the department of the
Auditor-General shall be audited and reported on by
the Minister responsible for finance and the pro-
visions of subsections (2) and (3) shall apply in
relation to the exercise by that Minister of those
functions as they apply in relation to audits and re-
ports made by the Auditor-General.

(6) Nothing in this section shall prevent
the performance by the Auditor-General of-

(a) such other functions in relation to the
accounts of the Government and the
accounts of other public authorities and
other bodies administering public funds
in Barbados as may be prescribedby or
under any law forthe time being in force
in Barbados; or


(b) such other functions in relation to the
supervision and control of expenditure
from public funds in Barbados as may
be so prescribed."

From the Constitution you will see the burden
that is laid on the Auditor General, and I thought it
was wise just to bring to the attention of the public
that Government's accounting and financing methods
are not just something by the way, and from this
Constitution you will see that the functions of the
Auditor General have increased considerably; we have
the new National Insurance scheme, and the demands
on the Auditor General call for a high-powered officer
of the rank of Deputy Auditor General in the increase
of staff, and the request for this increase in officers
is perfectly justified with the added responsibility
which the Constitution has placed on this office.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: Mr. President, I
accept the remarks made by the Honourable Attorney
General about the responsibility of the Audit Depart-
ment, but I must also sound a note of warning set by
the Hon. Senator Mapp, thatthere are other branches
of the Service which need attention, not onlythose in
high brackets, but right away down the line need some
attention. It is true to say that the Civil Service was
never satisfied with what was done by Mr. Gardner
Brown who hurried his revision, and the anomalies
which were to be dealt with after, were dealt with
also in a hurried manner, andtherefore certainas-
pects of the salaries revision still need to be gone
into, and I hope that the Government will see to it
when the time comes for these other people to get
what is their due.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, I would just like to represent the Eco-
nomic Planning Unit inview of certain remarks which
were made by Senator Mapp. It should be mentioned
that the immediate qualification for appointment
should be a first degree in Economics orthree years
experience in an Economic Department in Govern-
ment. I think that in view of the remark by Senator
Mapp that that little bit of information might be useful.

.The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put to the Senate and agreed to.

RESOLUTION TO ADJUST THE RATE OF
INTEREST ON LOANS TO THE BARBADOS
MARKETING CORPORATION
His Honour the President called the next Order.

A Resolution to adjust the rate of interest charge-
able to the Barbados Marketing Corporation in
respect of loans of certain sums of money from the
Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce and the Bank
of Nova Scotia.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, this Resolution seeks to correct an
error which was in a Resolution of Parliament/rather
of the Legislature as it then was/with respect to the
terms of certain loans which were to be borrowed
from certain banks by the Barbados Marketing Cor-






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portion and a guarantee for the repayment of those
loans and the interest given by the Government. In
that Resolution it was stated that the rate of interest
should be one-half of half percent below the prime
commercial rate at the date of borrowing.

Those terms do not adequately reflect the terms
of the Agreement between the Government and the
bank, and the object of this Resolution is to place on
record the true terms of the Agreement which in so
far as the interest is concerned are that the rate of
interest should be one half of one percent below the
prime commercial rate. I move that the Resolution
be concurred in.
SENATOR THE HONOURABLE L. E. SANDIFORD:
I beg to second that.
The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.
AIRPORT SERVICE CHARGE BILL
His Honour the President called the next Order.
A Bill to provide for the imposition of an Airport
Service Charge on persons travelling out of Barbados
from Seawell Airport for the collection of the imposed
charge and for matters incidental thereto or con-
nected therewith.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, Sir, inthe course of his budget speech
in June this year, the Honourable Prime Ministerlet
it be known that he proposed to impose an Airport
Service charge on all persons leaving Seawell Airport
going abroad, and that that charge would be $2 per
passenger. He also let it be known that there were
certain categories of persons who would be exempted
from this charge. Provision has been made for col-
lecting the charge, but it has been deemed necessary,
in keeping with proper legislation, to have a special
Act dealing with this charge; that iswhy this Billis
now before us. If members would turn to the Bill itself,
they will see thatthere are one ortwo definitions in
clause 2; for instance, "collector" beingthe person
to whom the airport service charge should be paid. He
will be a public officer designated by Cabinet as is
stated in the objects and reasons, andIwill say here
and, now that it is contemplated that the Director of
Civil Aviation will be that officer. The carriers, as
defined in the Bill, will be allowed commission of 154
on every charge.

If members will turn to clause 4 (1) they will see
that the provision I mentioned just now, the fact that
certain categories will be exempt from this charge.
Those provisions are to be found in clause 3 (2) on
page 3 of the Bill.

The penalty for a breach of this Act is set out
in clause 5. There is a provision in clause 8 which
provides for revision of any amount overpaid, and
clause 9 authorises the Cabinet to make regulations
to deal with other aspects of this Bill. I may mention
finally that the provisions of this Bill have been dis-
cussed with the people involved who have agreedwith
them as here set out. I move that this Bill be read a
second time.


SENATOR THE HONOURABLE P. M. GREAVES:
I beg to second that.

SENATOR D. A. WILES: Mr. President, I riseto
support this Bill because our airport represents
capital investment of $5 million, if not more, and those
who wish to use it should perhaps pay a penalty for
so doing. But what this Bill purports to do, is to im-
pose an airport service charge on travellers leaving
Seawell. Wonder if the casual visitor to the airport
would not notice especially at peak periods what I
am suggesting is that our airport, as attractive as it
is, cannot possibly cope with the number of visitors
who seem to find themselves there when there are many
aircraft leaving, and one has only sensed this within
the last three or four weeks. I am wondering if the
Government might give consideration to a somewhat
unpopular suggestion, to make a nominal charge to
these casual visitors who make the airport a re-
creational centre, but we are dealing with a coura-
geous Government and I am sure that this would bring
in much needed revenue.

We know that a great deal of money is now being
spent on expanding the airport, and as soon as the new
area goes into operation it will be found to be too
small, so I would suggest that Government might
consider whether they could not introduce some
measure which might act as a brake on the pressure
that is now being felt there. We notice that this Act
shall be deemed to have come into operation on the
1st September, and we know that this charge is being
collected from passengers leaving the island, Ithink
from the 1st September. There must be some legis-
lative instrument under which it is being collected.
The Minister will no doubt clear it up for us.

SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: Mr. President, I
somehow cannot agree with the Hon. Senator Wiles
suggesting that the Government should tax those
people who are going to the airport to see their re-
latives off. I hope that Government will not think of
anything along those lines; I support this Bill other-
wise.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, I am sure
I am not opposing this at all. I see they have included
persons like myself for exemption from this charge,
and I do not leave the island very often. You can
understand that members of the Government would
not leave the island very often, of course, on official
business. We do not have to pay whether we are on
official business or not, but the point I would like to
make is that sometimes I am in this island and I
would like to get in a car park and cannot get in
because they have stands formonthlypeople. I think
the Government should look into this matter.

SENATOR C. ASQUITH PHILLIPS: Mr. Presi-
dent, surely this has nothing to do with Seawell Air-
port.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: I am just explaining that
the Government could refuse my little bit of revenue..










Mr. PRESIDENT: I was wondering how far the
Senator was going.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
He has got as far as the Wharf, Mr. President.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Now, Sir, so far as
another point raised here which, strange to say, the
reaction on the other side was rather dubious. I
believe the Bill was passed imposing a charge on
people going to Seawell but apparently it was not
implemented; but something along the lines of what
the Hon. Senator Wiles meant, but it was not imple-
mented. It is amatterforthe Government if they feel
that they can relieve me of $2 when leaving the
island, whether I am going on official business or not,
but, do not impose a charge on people up there to see
relatives off. It is a matter for them. If they need
revenue let them look for it. I am not anticipating
anything that they would do, all I am saying is that I
heartily agree with it. I am even willing to pay my
$2, but since they let me off, I thank them.

The question that the Bill be read a second time
was put to the Senate and agreed to.

The clauses of the Bill were called and passed.
His Honour the President resumed the Chair and
the passing of the Bill was reported.
On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable P.M.
Greaves, the Bill was read a third time and passed.

LAW REVISION (MISCELLANEOUS
REPEALS) BILL
His Honour the President called the next Order
of the Day.
A Bill to revise the Statute Law of the island by
repealing obsolete, spent, unnecessary or superseded
enactments.
SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, as a result of the labours of the law
Revision Committee, this Chamber has been asked
from time to time to erase from the Statute Book
certain laws which have alreadyhadtheireffect and
which are no longer applicable to the needs of our
society. This is a very thorough exercise carried out
under the direction of Professor Marshall and Mr.
Keith Patchett which is more extensive than anything
that has been done before.
One has only to turn to the schedule to this Bill
to see what a long list of enactments under various
general headings which are to be erased. I may say
that this Bill was the subject of an intensive discus-
sion in the other place. It was referred to a Select
Committee which comprised members of the Govern-
ment as well as of the Opposition, and the Attorney
General and one of the Law Revision Commissioners
in fact they both attended the meetings. The com-
mittee consisted, with these two capable members,
of 8 persons, and of the 8, 5 were lawyers, so there
was every provision for adequate legal examination
of the Bill. Certain proposals were made to the Select


committee, and judging from the report which I have
here of that Committee, I note that there are only 4
instances in which the recommendations of the At-
torney General and the Law Revision Commissioner
were not accepted on every question by that com-
mittee. They are on page 18, with respect to the
Drainage Act, page 20 with respect to the Local
Government Elections, the Judgement Creditors
Remedies Act, on page 21 with respect to the Traffic
Act (sitting of the Legislature).

The Law Revision Commissioner was of the
opinion that the Acts mentioned on page 18 should
very well be taken off the Statute Book.

The whole thing is that certain Acts have been
allowed to remain on the Statute Book. I think that--
and the public can judge -- the Committee has done
very good work. First of all there was the work done
by the Law Revision Commission and the committee
did very good work in going through the list of statutes
and satisfying themselves as to the various provisions
which should be erased in whole or in part from the
Statute Book.

One word more. No vested rights will be affected
in any way because of the proposed repeal of these
laws. That is so because of the Interpretation Act,
Section 29.

I move, Sir, that the Bill be read a second time.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE F. G. SMITH: Mr.
President, -- I beg to second that. I should just like
to add a little more to what the hon. Minister of State
has said. Senators who may be worried can go through
the Schedule with me and I will explain in detail.

Every year we pass the Expiring Laws Bill. We
hope some time next year to have the Laws printed.
The Rates of Income Tax Acts have only been
repealed up to 1962, because the Income Tax rates
have not been revised for a period of five years.

Appropriation enactments are annual laws and
every year you have to enact them. You have parish
Loan Acts. We got in touch with the Financial Secre-
tary and we find that these have been redeemed and
so are miscellaneous loan Acts the terms of which
have been fulfilled. Exemption from Tax Acts have all
been spent and so have the cost of living enactments.
Special pensions and gratuities enactments have
been repealed in relation to persons whose rights will
be preserved, and in the case of personal pensions,
most of these cases are in respect of persons who have
gone to the Great Beyond, and in some cases pro-
vision is made in the Continuance Act.


We were thinking of removing the Three Houses
Act, but the manager tells us that the rights for the use
of this spring are still in force. There are also Acts
dealing with the Sugar Industry making provision for
payment for specific purposes and then we find that
Local Government has undergone a colossal change
and has to undergo another change very shortly.


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There are other Acts which are absolete and some
which have become unnecessary since Independence.
The West Indian Oil Syndicate Act is an example. That
company is no longer in operation. Others are the
Prisoners of War Act of 1902. The Wireless and
Submarine Telegraphy Act of 1905, the Letters of
Request (Foreign Process) Act of 1912, the West
Indian Court of Appeal Act that Court has gone out
of existence etc.

If there iis any further information that members
may want I hope that Iwillbein a position to give it.

SENATOR E. LISLE WARD: Mr. President, -- I
notice that the Boundaries Commission Act is to be
repealed also.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, I too
wanted to ask something about that. I am grateful to
the hon. Attorney General for what explanation he
gave us. I think that some time ago he told us that he
was preparing legislation in connection with single
member constituencies, and I would like to know what
has happened in that respect. I am wonderingwhat will
take the place of the Boundaries Commission Act in
case a by-election comes up.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE F. G. SMITH:
The Boundaries Commission Act is spent. We have
agreed to single member constituencies, but if there
is a by-election it will be held under the present sys-
tem. The order which was made for the Boundaries
Commission has had its day. I can assure Senator
Mapp that if the necessity arises legislation will be
ready to carry out the purpose forwhichit is intended
and the wishes of the people will be expressed. I will
not be found wanting as Attorney General.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: I thank the hon. Senator.

The question that the Bill be read a second time
was put.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable P.M.
Greaves, Senator C. L. Brathwaite was appointed to
act as Deputy President for the remainder of the
meeting, Senator C. Asquith Phillips having left the
Chamber during the discussion of this order.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable F. G.
Smith, the Senate went into Committee on the Bill,
Senator C. L. Braithwaite in the Chair.
Clause 1 to 3 of the Bill were called and passed
without debate.
The Schedule was called.

Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan moved that
the Schedule stand part of the Bill.


Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves seconded'
the motion.


The question that the Schedule stand part of the
Bill was put and agreed to.

The question that the passingof the Billbe re-
ported to the Senate was put and agreed to.

His Honour the President resumed the Chair and
the passing of the Bill in Committee was reported
accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator F. C. H. Carew, the
Bill was read a third time and passed.

BILL TO AMEND PUBLIC LOAN ACT, 1961

The President called the ninth Order -- A Bill
to amend the Public Loan Act, 1961.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- The Public Loan Act of 1961 au-
thorises the Cabinet to raisebyloanorloans a sum
not exceeding $24 million. That was done in view of the
development programme approved by Parliament in
1960.

With the increased pace and scope of our develop-
ment it has been necessary to raise a greater sum
than the $24 million authorised by the 1961 Act, and
this Bill proposes that this Actbe amended by rais-
ing the ceiling of loans from $24 million to $30 mil-
lion so that the Governmentwillbe able to cover pro-
jects envisaged in our 1965 68 Development
Programme.

I move, Sir, that the Bill be read a second time.

Senator the Hon. P. M. Greaves seconded the
motion.

The question that the Bill be read a second time
was put to the Senate and agreed to.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable P. M.
Greaves, the Senate went into Committee on the Bill,
Senator C. L. Brathwaite in the Chair.

Clauses 1 and 2 of the Bill were called and passed
without debate.
The question that the passing of the Bill be re-
ported to the Senate was put and agreed to.
His Honour the President resumed the Chair
and the passing of the Bill in Committee was reported
accordingly.

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator F. C. H. Carew, the
Bill was read a third time and passed.

C. P. A. CONFERENCE IN UGANDA

HIS HONOUR THE PRESIDENT: Honourable
Senators, as you know, the Hon. Minister of State,


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Senator Vaughan, has been selected as one of our
delegates to attend the Commonwealth Parliamentary
Association Conference to be held in Uganda beginning
on the 15th of next month. I would like to take the
opportunity before the adjournment of the Senate as
I take it that we will not meet again shortly -- to
express our wishes to the hon. Minister for a safe
journey to Uganda and back to his native country.

I hope that :he meeting in Uganda will be enjoy-
able and Constructive. I am sure that Senator Vaughan
will represent us in a most distinguished manner.


SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, I must first thank you for your kind
wishes. I think that the best way of showing to you,
Sir, and to other members how much I appreciate
those wishes is by getting there as quickly as I can,
acquitting myself as effectively as I can and upholding
the good name and long tradition of this Parliament.
ADJOURNMENT
On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable P. M.
Greaves, the Senate adjourned at 6.20 p. m. sine die.


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THE


SENATE


DEBATES


(OFFICIAL REPORT)


SECOND SESSION OF 1966 71


THE SENATE
Thursday, 23rd November, 1967.
The Senate met in the Senate Chamber, Public
Buildings, at 4 o'clock p. m. today.

PRESENT

His Honour Senator E. S. ROBINSON, C.B.E.,
(President); Senator the Honourable H. A.
VAUGHAN, O.B.E., Q.C., (Minister of State and
Leader of the Senate); Senator the Honourable P.
M. GREAVES, B.A., (Minister of Home Affairs);
Senator the Honourable L. E. SANDIFORD, M.A.,
(Minister of Education); Senator H. Odessa
GITTENS, M.R.S.H., (Parliamentary Secretary);
Senator S. V. ASHBY; Senator C. L.BRATHWAITE;
Senator E. Lisle WARD; Senator F.C. H. CAREW;
Senator S. A. BLANCHETTE; Senator D. A.
WILES, C.M.G., O.B.E.; Senator W. W.
BLACKMAN, M.B.E.; Senator Erma V. ROCK;
Senator H. F. ALKINS; Senator R. G. MAPP;
Senator N. A. BARROW, B.A. and Senator P. G.
MORGAN.

ABSENT

His Honour Senator C. Asquith PHILLIPS,
B.A., (Deputy President); Senator the Honourable
F. G. SMITH, Q.C., (Attorney General); Senator
F. L. WALCOTT, O.B.E.; Senator Dr. R. B.
CADDLE, B. Sc., M.B.B.S.;

Prayers were said.

EXCUSE FOR ABSENCE

The Clerk informed the Senate that he had
been asked to offer an excuse for the absence of
Senator C. Asquith Phillips, Deputy President,
from the day's meeting.


PAPERS

Senator the Honourable H. A. Vaughan, Minister
of State and Leader of the Senate, laid the following
papers:-


(1) Statement showing Net Customs and Ex-
cise Receipts for seven months ended
31st October, 1967.


(ii) The Public Officers Loan and Travelling
Allowances (Amendment) (No.4) Regula-
tions, 1967.

(iii) The Exports and Imports (Caribbean
Free Trade Association) Order, 1967.

(iv) Sixteenth Annual Report and Statement of
Accounts for the period from 1st April,
1966 to 31st March, 1967 of the Natural
Gas Corporation.

(v) The Barbados Union Oil Company Re-
finery (Levy on Petroleum Products)
(Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations, 1967.

(vi) Statement of sums of money paid over to
the Accountant General by the Commis-
sioner of Police during the quarter end-
ed 31st March, 1967.

(vii) Statement of sums of money paid over to
the Accountant General by the Commis-
sioner of Police during the quarter end-
ed 30th June, 1967.


(viii)


Statement showing Net Customs and Ex-
cise Receipts for six months ended 30th
September, 1967.


(ix) An account of the transactions in Rum in
the several districts of the Island forthe
quarter ended 30th September, 1967.


(x) The Customs Duties (Amendment) (No. 5)
Order, 1967.

(xi) Report of Probation services forthe year
1963.


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(xii) Customs Duties (University Gowns and
Hoods) Order, 1967.

(xiii) Barbados Police Force (Allowances)
(Amendment) Regulations, 1967.

(xiv) The Customs Duties (Amendment) (No. 6)
Order, 1967.

(xv) The Caribbean Free Trade Association
(Origin of Goods) Regulations, 1967.

(xvi) Annual Report of the Public Assistance
Board for the period April 1966- March,
1967.

(xvii) The Customs (Caribbean Free Trade
Association) Order, 1967.

(xviii) The Income Tax (Employments) (Amend-
ment) Rules, 1967.

(xix) Summary of Conclusions of the Confer-
ence of Heads of Government of Common-
wealth Caribbean Countries.

(xx) Statement on Barbados' Membership of
the Organisation of American States.

QUESTIONS


Question No. 6 Asked by Senator N. A. Barrow, on
9th March, 1967.

To enquire of the appropriate Minister:-


1. Does the Government consider it desire-
able that the means of mass communication should
be owned and/or operated in major part by overseas
persons and is Government aware that there is at
present in Barbados a trend in this direction?

2. If the Government does not consider this
trend desirable, will the Minister please state:

(a) What steps Government intends to
take to arrest this trend; and

(b) What measures will be instituted
to save the jobs of the large num-
ber of persons currently threat-
ened by this trend?

Question No. 12 Asked by Senator N. A. Barrow on
29th June, 1967.

To enquire of the appropriate Minister:-

1. Will the Minister please state whether it
is the policy of the Government to permit Govern-
ment-owned premises intended as residences to be
used as places of business?

2. Will the Minister please statewhetherthe
Government-owned flat at the Garrison, the premises


of Mrs. Smale's School, is being rented as a resi-
dence or as a place of business?


3. Will the Minister please state what entitles
Mrs. Smale and her husband to the use of such a flat
since neither is a member of the teaching or Govern-
ment service of this Island?

4. Will the Minister please state whetherthe
Government still rents accommodation for its em-
ployees while its own property is in some instances
occupied by persons who have no entitlement to such
subsidized housing?

5. Will the Minister please state what steps
are being taken to ensure that such persons referred
to at No. 4 cease to enjoy this privilege and find their
own accommodation without assistance of the tax-
payers of this island?

6. If the answer to No. 1 is No,will the Min-
ister please state what action is being takento bring
to an end the conduct of business on Government-
owned premises intended for residences?"

REPLIES

Question No. 6 -

1. The Government does not consider it
desirable that the means of mass communication
should be controlled by persons, whether local or
foreign, whose interests do not favour the promotion
of the general welfare of this country.

2. Government is not aware that there is at
present in Barbados a trend towards the ownership
and/or operation of the means of mass communica-
tion by overseas persons."

Question No. 12 -

1. No, Sir.

2. As a residence as in the case of other
flats.
3. A Government-owned flat was let to Mr.
Smale in July, 1958. Since his retirement from the
teaching service he continued to serve in a Govern-
ment school until August, 1967 and to occupy the
flat.

4. Accommodation has only been rented for
Medical Staff.

5. & 6. A new policy on Government housing
for its employees is being formulated and notices to
quit have been served on certainformer Government
employees.

NOTICE OF INTENTION TO ASK FOR LEAVE
TO DEAL WITH ADDITIONAL ITEMS

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- Before we enter on the Order


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Paper I beg to give notice of my intention later in the
meeting to proceed with four Resolutions which have
been circulated late to Senators.

I may say parenthetically that the reason is no
fault of the Government. We hoped that they would
have been disposed of by the Other Place at the meet-
ing of Friday last week, but theywere not disposed of
until Tuesday this week. If they had been disposed of
last week they would have been sent to members by
the Monday.

All of these matters are of great urgency and I
hope that there will be no inconvenience.

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CURRENT)
No. 22

The President called the first Order -- A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $80,000 at the disposal of
the Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-
68 Part 1 Current as shown in the Supplementary
Estimates, 1967 68No.22whichformsthe Schedule
to the Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- The object of this Resolution is
to put at the disposal of the Government the sum of
$80,000 with which to carry out feasibility studies
any time that the Government deems requisite.

Our industrial activities have to expand, and
these are the kind of things necessary in developing
countries. I presume that there will be no objection
in principle to voting for an object of this kind.

The $80,000 is to be voted without reference to
any particular scheme. The Government will deter-
mine in what area of our industrial activities the
money can be most properly expended.

There is only one objection that I have heard,
and that is that feasibility surveys usually result in
money being sent out of the country to experts of
the country from which we are getting some sort of
aid. I think the obvious answer is that the feasibility
studies can help us to get a return for the money we
spend by helping the outside country to decide more
clearly whether or not a particular form of aid
should be given.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.

The question was put to the Senate and agreed to.

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATE (CURRENT)
No. 23

The President called the second Order, -- A
Resolution to place the sumof $52,750atthe disposal
of the Government to supplement the Estimates, 1967-
68 Part 1 Current as shown in the Supplementary
Estimates, 1967 68 No. 23 which forms the Schedule
to-the Resolution.


SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, -- This Resolution deals with the
electrical stand-by generating plant at Seawell which
is intended to be put into operation in case there is a
failure of the main service. That equipment bears a
load of 90 kilowatts and with the increasing develop-
ment in that area, not least of all the setting up of
the computer exercise by International Scientific
Limited and with the expansion of the Airport itself,
it is quite obvious that the load is increasing all the
time and will continue to increase in the near future.

As a matter of fact, we have been informed by the
Director of Civil Aviation andthis has been empha-
sised by people knowledgeable in electricity that the
load demand will be in the nature of 250 kilowatts in
the not too distant future.

In order that there should be no inconvenience
it has been decided to supplement the lighting and
other electrical equipment at the Airport. The
Government is therefore asking for this sum to carry
out this object.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator the Hon. P. M. Greaves seconded the
motion.

SENATOR D. A. WILES. Can the Minister tell us
whether this generator will have an automatic cut in
in case of a failure of the main service?

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
I am afraid that I cannot answer that question off
hand.

The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to.

RESOLUTION TO AMEND NOTE TO CAPITAL
ESTIMATES HEAD 102, ITEM 8

The President called the third Order A Reso-
lution to amend the Note to Capital Estimates Head
102, Item Additional Roadworks in the Approved
Estimates 1967 68.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, In this Resolution the Government is
asking for an amendment to the note to Capital Es-
timates Head 102, Item 8 Additional Roadworks, so
as to empower it to use funds which are really allo-
cated to the Ministry of Communications and Works
for projects other than the Cave Hill Project Access
Road, No. 1, in order that the work on that road which
has been going on for some considerable while may be
completed.

The sum required, as stated in the Resolution is
$86,000. As members will no doubt recollect, this
year's estimates, the sum of $10,000 was put in to-
wards further progress of this project. The complete
amount required is $96,590 so that we are asking for
this additional amount in order that the work can be
done thoroughly.










I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in,

Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.


SENATOR H. F. ALKINS: Mr. President, One
is a little worried when one sees what appears to be
a gross under estimation of these public projects.
When one reads .the Addendum, one sees that last
March when the estimates were under consideration
the sum of $10,000 was included to complete this
road. Presumably the money had already been spent
and it was estimated that $10,000 would be required
to complete it.

We are now told that that was inadequate, and
that we want a matter of over $86,000. It would seem
to me, going on the information in the Addendum that
a gross under-estimation was made. Can the Minis-
ter throw any further light on this?

SENATOR R. G. MAPP. Mr. President, -- This
project is proving to be agonisingly slow. I think I
can speak with some degree of authority, not be-
cause, if I may say so, it was planned in the pre-
1961 days and I had something to do with the plan-
ning along with the then Town and Country Planning
Officer, Mr. Stevens, whose brain :hild it was.

Certainly, Sir, I think that the Government is
really harming itself by this slow process, because
investors are not lining up waiting for Barbados to
get going. It is the other way round. There were one
or two investors whose interest was killed because of
the slow progress of this work. I happened to be in
correspondence with one, a Barbadian, and now an
American citizen, who has been in the real-estate
business for many years. He wrote me this year
asking me to get certain information about the
project and asking me to send down certain facts
etc.
I must say that I was amazed myself that in spi:e
of the time that elapsed between 1961 and 1967 I still
could not get from the department concerned any form
of data as to when this project would get off the
ground. I was told that tenders might be advertised
for. It was hoped that people interested in coming up
with schemes to the Government would utilise local
material, and that would be considered in taking ac-
count of the tenders submitted.
It was hoped that we would hear something by
March this year, butupto nownothing has been done.,
Apparently it will take another year. The whole point
about this scheme is that if you want to take the op-
portunity to get money for Housingyou have to realise
that you do not pick up money at the drop of a hat. It
is difficult to come by it, and with the squeeze in
England economic conditions will become harder and!
harder.The more delay wehave with this project, the
more difficulties we will find.

I remember that when another member of this
Senate was a Civil Servant it was stated unofficially
that the Colonial Development Corporation was in-
terested in connection with a Bermuda company.
They were interested in putting money into this sort


of housing middle-class housing-backed by the
Government. I was told that this dropped through, and
that one of the things that prohibited them from com-
ing here at the time was the low interest rate of 6
per cent. They had to borrow money at 6 per cent in
England, and it would not pay them.

Soon after that, the rate of interest was changed
to 8 per cent, but I have not heard what has become of
that scheme. I have no doubt that some of these
schemes might have dropped through because of the
long delay.


The last member who spoke said that he could
not understand certain things about this Resolution.
Let us face it squarely. The Addendum says that
"it has been found that this allocation of $10,000
is inadequate and that a further sum of $86,519
is required to complete the construction of the
road including the provision of footpaths, curbs,
retaining walls and excavating and laying ducts for
utility services."


Something is wrong in this department. Some-
thing is very wrong. Two weeks ago the department
was doing a private road near a Senator's residence.

Mr. PRESIDENT: This sum of money is to be
voted specifically for completing the Cave Hill Ac-
cess Road No. 1. It is nothing to do with a road near
a senator's residence.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Having made the charge
that something is wrong in the department I did not
want to let it hang in mid-air.

Mr. PRESIDENT: I think that your point is well
taken.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: There was abadestima-
tion for that road. These things want looking into.
That is a word to the wise, and I hope that members
here will realise that. All of this has militated
against the success of this particular scheme.

The whole point is that there is an urgent need
of this type of housing in Barbados. Whenyou see an
advertisement in the newspaper for a house to rent
there is a flood of applicants in one day. I know that
by actual experience. There is great pressure forth
type of housing that is envisaged in Cave Hill.

I see the member who is one of those at the top
of the Urban Development Board looks at me with a
great interest. Perhaps he wants to enlighten, us
about the development of the scheme.I want him to
get up and tell us everything about what progress is
being made, if any. All that we are getting are Reso-
lutions being presented to the Legislature for more
funds because of under-estimation.

We are now told that the $10,000 is inadequate.
It is really frustrating because there is so much
pressure already on the Housing Authority bypeople











who this scheme will not benefit, that any further
delay not only puts further pressure on them but
makes the situation at Cave Hill doubly inadequate
even when they get through the first phase of the pro-
ject.

Already they have been planning too long. Costs
are going up, and the pound sterling has been devalued.
We will be faced with a growing serious situation, a
situation that will grow more serious. It is nothing to
laugh at or play with, and Ihope that the Government
will soon bring their plans to fruition and get this
scheme off the ground.

More and more people are being born everyday.
More and more are finding it difficult to get proper
housing in this island. Let us get to work and stop
this frustrating waste of time.

SENATOR E. LISLE WARD: Mr. President, I
myself am very baffled about the Addendum, because
in the Addendum one will realise that about this time
last year it was estimated that $10,000 would have
completed this project. Now we are being asked to
increase it to $86,519. Something must have gone
wrong during that interim, or possibly the Minister
has not given us all the information in his possession.
I feel that he has not explained the Resolution well
enough.

One could not expect that in a year you could
spend $86,000 more. I agree with Senator Alkins that
the Minister should be able to give us a little more
information.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE P. M. GREAVES:
Mr. President, I would like to speak on the Urban
Development Corporation as this is now my responsi-
bility. I want to assure this Chamber that the Govern-
ment is well aware that there is urgent need for the
type of housing planned at Cave Hill, and the Govern-
ment does not want anyone like Senator Mapp or any-
one else to tell us that. As a matter of fact, we are
well ahead in our planning.

The history of this project began some time
prior to 1961. Since then the present Government
has acquired 600 acres despite opposition by the
Opposition. The proposal is to build a completely new
city in the Cave Hill Area, and a project of this enor-
mous size takes a considerable amount of planning.

It might appear to be not getting off the ground,
but the mere fact that an access road is going through
is an indication that a start has been made. There is
more to it than just that. This project is phased out
over a considerably long period. These plans were
prepared by Mr. Stevens and were phased out over
a period of twenty years.

The project includes not only houses, but it will
be an entirely self-contained built up community.
There will be churches, shops schools and everything
else that goes to make up a self-contained community.
This is an enormous undertaking, and one the size of
which was never undertaken in Barbados. It is not the
sort of project that one can rush into.


There is established under an Act the Urban
Development Corporation to carry out the plans of
Government with respect to this new city. Not long
ago the Corporation appointed a team of engineers
who could provide a complete set of services includ-
ing lay-out and everything else for the construction
of this project. It is not that we are sleeping on this
project, but we are planning it very carefully.



One of the problems that we are encounteringis
that of finance. If Senator Mapp knows of any person
who can provide this finance hel should pass the inform-
ation on to us. If he knows a Barbadian, a real- es-
tate agent, with the kind of funds that we require I
would say that that Barbadian has been in corre-
spondence with the wrong person. He should have
been in correspondence with my Ministry or the Ur-
ban Development Corporation.

I can assure this Honourable Chamber that we
have had no such proposals from any Barbadian to
participate or invest in this project.


SENATOR R. G. MAPP: On a point of Order. I
said that I was informed that tenders would be asked
for very soon.



SENATOR THE HONOURABLE P. M. GREAVES:
I do not know where Senator Mapp got the information
that people would be invited to tender for the invest-
ment of money. If he has something at his disposal we
would be happy to have him and his money.

In regard to criticisms by other senators who
questioned this increased expenditure, I would explain
that this is not merely to complete the access road.
That is why it is so necessary to amend the note to
the item. It not only includes the access road, but it
is to do other things. I would invite senators to pay
a visit to that area and they will appreciate why we
require this kind of money.

We are putting in aqueducts, and a new reservoir
has been completed. This reservoir has to service not
only the Urban Development Corporation and other
buildings, but the University of the West Indies. This
money includes provision for running not only pipe-
lines, but services like Rediffusion and Electricity.
As I have said, we are building a completely new city.
We are planning along modern lines and lines for
these services will be run underground and not overhead
as in the past. We are living in a modern age and we
must keep in line with things as they progress.


The Corporation is also encountering consider-
able difficulty in carrying out the necessary excava-
tion work. The type oflstone in the area is very hard
and difficult to excavate. I recommend to senators
that they pay a visit to the Cave Hill Area.


SENATOR R. G. MAPP: On a point of Order.











HIS HONOUR THE PRESIDENT: The Senatorhas
already spoken on this matter.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: It is a matterof elucida-
tion.

HIS HONOUR THE PRESIDENT: I cannot allow
the senator to speak again. He has already spoken.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN-
I would reply Sir, to the criticisms levelled by Sena-
tors Alkins and Ward and to a less extent by Senator
Mapp with respect to the disparity between the ori-
ginal estimate of $10,000whichwas voted to complete
the work and the amount askedforinthis Resolution.

I am going to lay the cards squarely on the table
and when I am finishedIthink thatevery member
will realise that the Government has been doing its
best at all times with the material at its disposal. I
can state quite frankly that this project has been bede-
villed from early by certain personnel problems. As
Senator Greaves has said, it is a project of great
magnitude and it takes a great deal of planning. The
Government did not want to do what Senator Mapp
has accused us of doing, that is, keeping back the
work.

However, the planning of a project of this kind
depends to a large extent on engineers and it is
unfortunate but quite true that there was some dif-
ficulity in respect of engineers. One who had been
in charge of the project and who is no longer an
employee of this Government gave a lot of trouble
As a result we were not able to plan as carefully
as we would have liked.
There is this further point that as the work pro-
ceeded and we replaced that engineer we had a
succession of engineers with the result that there has
been planning and re-planning and now that we have
our full engineering staff we are able to come to the
Legislature and lay a full and comprehensive plan
out only for completion of the road, but for the
provision of proper footpaths, retaining walls, the
laying of ducts etc.
One consequence, Sir, of this difficulty with the
engineers is that the estimates have not been based
on the ultimate degree of accuracy. Our provision
had been made for a Quantity Surveyor and we are
now in a much better position to carry out the pro-
ject. Senators! need have no fear that the money will
be mis-spent since from the point of view of en-
gineering staff and that of the Quantity Surveyor we
can go forward and do a much more efficient job.
There has been a suggestion in some quarters -
I have no personal knowledge of it that in this pro -
ject as with others works, there has not been full
co-operation I and dedication to duty by casual em-
ployees. As I have said, I have no personal know-
ledge of this. It may or may not be true. Undoubtly
a great deal of the difficulty does lie with the extent
to which the scheme has been bedevilled by engineers.
Those are the facts, Mr. President, and I have
put them squarely before senators in the hope that
they will be satisfied that the Government is now in


a position to carry this work to completion with a
greater degree of ultimate satisfaction to itself and
the public generally.

The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to.

LEAVE TO DEAL WITH ADDITIONAL ITEMS

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, I now formally ask for leave to
proceed with the four additional Resolutions which I
mentioned at the beginning of today's proceedings.

There being no objection, leave was granted.

RESOLUTION FOR ADVANCES TO GOVERNMENT
EMPLOYEES

The President accordingly called as the Fourth
Order A Resolution that the sum not exceeding
$400,000 be advanced from the Public Treasury and
placed at the disposal of the Government for the
purpose of making advances of salary or wages to
Government employees.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President this is the usual Resolution which is
brought before Parliament at this time of the year in
order to facilitate Civil Servants and other Govern-
ment Employees by giving them some advance on
their salaries or wages in order to help them to
spend a more enjoyable time and to provide for the
method by which the repayment of this advance
should be made.

The Resolution sets out clearly what the pro-
visions are, and if senators will turn to the Reso-
lution itself they will see that it is provided that:-

"All members of the unestablished staff and
casual employees who would normally continue
to be employed by Government to the end of the
financial year on 31st March 1968, and other
Government employees who receive monthly sal-
aries shall be eligible for advance of wages and/
or salaries at Christmas time, 1967, in addition
to wages and/or salaries normally receivable by
them for the appropriate period on the following
basis:-

(i) in the case of the unestablished and casual
staff an advance equivalent to twice the net
weekly earnings receivable, by them during
any average week in the period of eight weeks
immediately preceding the date of payment;

(ii) in the case of other Government employees
an advance equivalent to 50%of the net sala-
ry receivable by them for the month of De-
cember 1967, where the salary does not
exceed $150 per month; and where the salary
exceeds $150 per month, an advance of 25%
of the net salary receivable by them for the
month of December, 1967 or $75 whichever
is the greater,"


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There are some people who would like to have the
advance but there is no compulsion for any employee
to take advantage of the offer. There is also the pro-
vision that an employee should be eligible for an
advance this year until any previous advance has been
repaid in full and advances made this year must be
cleared off by March 31 next year.

I move Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.

Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.


SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: Mr. President I
am glad to see that this Resolution has come down
at this time. If I speak rightly it is earlier this year
than usual, and I think that that will give employees
a better chance of getting their advances earlier. I
hope that the Minister of Education will usehis good
offices to see that teachers gettheir advances before
Christmas week.

SENATOR N. A. BARROW: Mr. President there
are two points I want to make. Naturally, we all. sup-
port this Resolution, but can the Minister give us
some information as to whether there are any arrears
in repayments from previous years?

Secondly I am aware that in some cases problems
have arisen where the Head of a Department has not
interpreted this as meaning that as long as a casual
employee can be guaranteed employment to the end of
March he is entitled to a loan. I know of a case where
an employee was not in the good graces of the Head,
and the latter interpreted it as though he had some
discretion in whether to give a loan or not. You should
make it clear to all Heads of Departments that as long
as a man will be employed to the 31st March he will
be entitled.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, The terms on which anyone is elig-
ible for these loans are laid down in the Resolution.

SENATOR N. A. BARROW: I did not say "elig-
ible" I said "entitled."

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
I do not want to split hairs. If you are eligible you are
entitled. In other words you have a right to get it.
That is my interpretation as a member of the Legal
Profession.

As regards arrears at the 31st March the amount
was $11,052 on the 15th November $8,732.38; still
remained outstanding.

SENATOR D. A. WILES: Mr. President, May I
ask if these arrears are due by people who left
the Service?

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Quite frankly, Sir, I do not have that detailed informa-
tion. I think I can say that some are in respect of
people who have left the island and some who have
left the Service.


The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to.

RESOLUTION TO AMEND NOTE RE
INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATIONS

The President called the Fifth Order A Reso-
lution to amend the Note to Item 22A of Head 22 of
the 1967 68 Estimates Part 1 Current.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, As senators will no doubt recollect
a total of $1,008,000was provided,by the Legislature
for Independence Celebrations last year. On the 31st
March the expenditure amounted to $93,000 and an
amount of $100,000 was revoted to meet outstand-
ing claims during this financial year. Claims are
still coming in, and are expected to exceed $500,000.
That leaves a fairly tidy sum out of which to pay for
the Independence Celebratio:s.

The object of the Resolution is to empower an
amendment to the note to the Current Estimates under
Head 22, Item 22A. The note would then read; "Re-
vote to meet outstanding claims and to meet the cost
of the first anniversary celebrations."

I take it that this is a worthwhile object to which
there will be no objection. When this has obtained the
approval of the Chamber we can then proceed to the
next Resolution.

I beg to move that the Resolution be concurred
in.

Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President it seems
to be very difficult to follow things here. We are in
competition with noise outside and I think that the
noise is beating senators to it. It is not clear to me
what we are dealing with. If I could be enlightened I
would be very glad.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
I am dealing with the Resolution under the Current
Estimates to amend the note under Head 22, Item
22A Independence Celebrations. This is not the Reso-
lution with which Ipropose to deal with next and which
seeks a vote of $25,000.

The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to

SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES ( CURRENT)
No. 28

The President called the Sixth Order A Reso-
lution to place the sum of $25,000 at the disposal of
the Government to supplement the Estimates 1967 -
68, Part 1 Current, as shown inthe Supplementary
Estimates, 1967 68 No. 28, which form the Schedule
to the Resolution.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, The previous Resolution having been











concurred in, the way is clear for consideration of
this Resolution. If Senators willturnl to Page 2 of the
Addendum they will see a summary of the activities
proposed for the Independence Celebrations.

Now, Sir, the first thing that I wish to say is that
in planning these celebrations the Government has
taken the opportunity to correct some of the errors
which the Government is alleged to have made during
the first Independence Celebrations.

It is not that the Government has anything to be
ashamed of. Every single nation Ghana, other West
African and East African nations, Trinidad, Jamaica
and Guyana all had their teething problems with
these celebrations. However, there are one or two
respects in which it is possible to avoidpast errors.

One of the complaints last time was that we did
not begin with a religious service of thanksgiving. I
remember Senator Blanchette making that complaint.
This. year the celebrations will officially begin on
Sunday, the 26th November, and as Senatorswill see
from the Addendum there will be a religious service
of thanksgiving, not, I might add, a State service, for
reasons that are perfectly obvious. Everyone knows
now what the position of the Anglican Church is
vis a vis the Government, and it is not thought proper
to have a State service.

The Government hopes that as many people as
possible will attend religious service on that day in
their respective denominations in different parts of
the island.

Now, Sir, last year it was said, and said with
some justification in this Chamber and elsewhere
that the celebrations were centred too heavily on
Bridgetown. This year we have tried to avoid that.
Looking through the list of activities, one will see
that the plan has been to afford as many people as
possible all over the island the opportunity to cele-
brate our first Independence Anniversary in their own
way and in their own districts.
The Social Welfare Department has planned a
very varied schedule of activities in the various
parishes. The decentralisation of the religious ser-
vice will afford members of the Legislature, particu-
larly members of the Other Place,with an opportunity
of worshiping with their constituents in their respect -
tive constituencies. Indeed members of the Legis-
lature will have an opportunity of taking part in these
activities which will be held from day to day in
various parts of the island.

Another complaint last year was about the num-
ber of activities devoted to children and the extent
to which they were involved in some sort of activity.
This year we have planned a wider series of celebra-
tions,there will be a special programme for children
at their schools including Government schools and
approved independent schools. There will be an essay
and poetry competition prizes for which will be furn-
ished partly by the Lions Club, and partly by the
Government. Under the auspices of the Arts Council
a drama festival has already taken place.


SENATOR N. A. BARROW: On a point of order,
Sir, I am afraid that that is' not really accurate. It is
the Guild of Under-graduates.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
The senator places the drama festival under the
auspices of the Guild of Undergraduates. I know that
he is a powerful supporter and leading spirit in the
Guild, and I therefore understand the speed whichhe
exhibited in bringing my attention to the fact that it
was the distinguished organisation of which he is so
capable a member.

To continue, Sir, there will be athletic sports at
the various centres in which of course, childrenwill
also participate.

At the other end of the scale there will be a spe-
cial gift of $1 to OldAge Pensioners andforinmates
Government Institutions etc. It will be seen that in
these celebrations we have tried to profit by the
suggestions made in this Chamber and elsewhere
when we were having our celebrations last year.

Last 'ut not least this programme has been drawn
up not by anyone from outside. In this instance we
felt that we had enough experience to draw up a pro-
gramme of activities ourselves, and the programme
has not been drawn up by the Government alone. A
committee was set up of which I happened to be a
member, comprising members of the Civil Service
and of various service orginisations and other bodies,
and the committee spent a considerable amount of
time in drawing up the plan of celebrations. They
revised it and revised it again and submitted it to
Cabinet who went through it with a fine-tooth comb,
and after making certain changes it was sent to
Parliament. We are hoping that this Resolution which
involves the whole community will commend itself to
members.

I beg to move that the Resolution be concurred in.
Senator F. C. H. Carew seconded the motion.
SENATOR S. A. BLANCHETTE: Mr. President -
Often we around this table are quick to criticise the
Government on anything that is done which we do not
think is right, but often we are reluctant to congratu-
late them on things done to our satisfaction. I want
to express my appreciation for this Resolution. The
Government has honestly stated that they realise that
mistakes were made in the former instance.

It may not be an answer to all the things that we
would like to see done, but it is obvious thatwehave
profited by the mistakes of the past. Iam glad to see
that Old Age Pensioners have been thought of and that
we are starting off by thanking our Heavenly Father
for bringing us through our first year of Independence
which could have been extremely difficult. We have
passed through that year with flying colours.

The people of Barbados have taken Independence
in a quiet, calm manner and we will be able to cele-
brate this first anniversary in a happy state of mind.
I want to congratulate the Government on having put
-up this very interesting programme.











SENATOR W. W. BLACKMAN: I too would like
to congratulate the Government for showing greater
imagination in this year's celebrations than lastyear
but there is one point that Iwantto make, and that is
that I see that on the 29th November there will be a
special programme for school children at various
schools.


I do not know what form it will take. I do not know
if it will take the form of soft drinks and cakes. There
is a school of thought in our community which would
suggest that the giving of soft drinks and cakes is
demoralising. I know that between two and three
o'clock in the afternoon during a celebration of this
kind any child would appreciate a soft drink and cake.
I do not know how many school functions there will be,
but last year's celebrations found Civil Servants to a
great extent excluded from these functions. I am a
member of the Civil Service Association and I think
that the CSA which represents the bulk of Government
Employees should not be left out.



Last year I was ashamed when I got to some of
these functions and did not see any representatives
of the CSA. If there is a body of workers to whom
Independence will mean little it is the Employees of
Local Government. I can say without fear of contra-
diction that they are a body of frustrated and dis -
gruntled people, and I do not mean only the poorly
paid cooks at the: infirmaries I mean all the way
through.

Since 1954 when the Vestry Suspension Bill was
passed holders of posts in Local Government were
not appointed permanently, they are only acting. I
am fighting a case representing a person at one of the
infirmaries who was acting since 1962. While the
Government, the Vestries and the Councils were
having pitched battles about supremacy these people
were suffering. I hope that in this newyear they will
be so treated that everyone will be able to celebrate
Independence with a cheerful spirit.

SENATOR N. A. BARROW: Mr. President, -
When I rose earlier to point out a mistake I wanted
to point out that the Schools Drama Festival took
place last week, and its intrusion here is inaccurate.
I believe that what this is meant to refer to is the
fact that the Arts Council has been extremely kind
to the Guild and let them put on shows for the public.

I rise Sir because there is apparently an expendi-
ture of $25,000 and $24,000 is for parties overseas.
Quite frankly, $24,000 is a lot of money and I do not
think that we can affordparties on an elaborate scale.
I think that every Embassy and every High Commis -
sioner should budget for the year a certain amount to
be included for the Independence Celebrations and
leave it at that.

I do not see how it can cost us $24,000 to cele-
brate overseas and $25,000 to have meaningful
activities among our own people. I am not saying that


you should spend and spend but I do not think that the
spending of $25,000 on community activities will
make those activities involve the community as a
whole. I do not think that that figure is adequate if it
will cost us $24,000 for Embassies abroad to have
some kind of token celebrations.

I would like to know if because of reasons of
economy the Government found it necessary to prune
the local programme a great deal, and if they did not
think that it will be wise to cut down on the overseas
expenditure.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Mr. President, My
colleague on the left has commented on certain fea-
tures of these celebrations. There is one thing that
strikes me as being too much of a sop and that is
$11,150 for Old Age Pensioners. I know that this is
intended to give each old age pensioner a dollar. It
might be said that we are remembering the old folk.
I want to throw out the suggestion that with what is
going on as regards the cost of living as the result of
devaluation there is no use remembering them for
one day. What they are receiving week by week
will bring them nothing but starvation during the
coming twelve months.

So, Sir, I hope that the Government will realise
that this is just a beginning. I hope in fact that the
Government will not look at the Independence Cele-
brations as just normal activities, but realise that
there are harsh times ahead.'The standard of living
will fall in Great Britain, and will fall to greater
extent perhaps here in Barbados in the coming
months. This year will be a greater challenge than
ever to the people of Barbados. While we rejoice,
and celebrate, we are hoping that the Government
will try to infuse into the people of Barbados I read
a speech by the Attorney General in which he was
making some attempt to be serious about what is
going on in this community. This Government will
have to cut down on a lot of joy-riding and joy-spend-
ing in the months ahead and let people realise that
lean days are around the corner.

SENATOR H. ODESSA GITTENS: Mr. President,
Just a few words in reply to the members who men-
tioned mistakes made at the first Independence Cele-
brations. I would say that considering the short
notice, those celebrations came off admirably. I say
that because I know from experience that the planned
action of the Opposition could have made us make
many more mistakes.


Senator Barrow seems to be ruffled over the
$24,000 for overseas expenditure as against $25,000
for local expenditure.


I think that we have a lot to thank God for in this
first year if Senators will realise -


SENATOR N. A. BARROW: I wonder who said
anything about a community not being thankful.











SENATOR H. ODESSA GITTENS: I think that my
words have struck home. If we have this feeling in
our own ourselves we do not have to go to church.
Even at this table if I look at you thankfully I put a
$blessing on you.

I think that the absence of more money to spend
on local celebrations is made up from the number of
thankful beneficiaries as against the $24,000 to be
spent on overseas celebrations.There are still inthis
island people who in spite of efforts to deceive them
by the Opposition are still thankful, and we are still
a very peaceful nation.


SENATOR THE HONOURABLE L. E. SANDIFORD:
Mr. President, In reply to queries made by Senators
Blackman and Mapp, the Schools Drama Festival
mentioned in the Agenda refers to the Arts Council's,
Programme on the Friday 24th November. They have
indicated that there will be a school's drama produce -
tion. at King George V Memorial Park. '. There are
also other days during the week of celebrations on
the 27th November at Oistins and on the 1st Decem-
ber at Speightstown.

As far as Senator Blackman is concerned the idea
that school children should be provided with soft
drinks when they have their programme on the
Wednesday was not looked upon favourably by the
Executive of the Barbados Union of Teachers. Ithink
that Senator Blackman is President of that Associa-
tion. It was their very strong view that the children
should not be provided with soft drinks but that it
should be celebrated in a more tangible way.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H.A. VAUGHAN:
There are two or three points on which I would like
to reply. With respect to the remarks voiced con-
cerning the part which Civil Servants would probably
be asked to play in the Independence Anniversary
Celebrations, or the part which they might reason-
able be expected to play, I think that the answer is
that in so far as invitations to recognized people in
the Civil Service are concerned, that these people
receive at all times, not only Independence Celebra-
tions, due invitations. That is a matter of general
policy, as far as people in Bridgetown are concerned.

As far as the various localities in the country are
concerned, to the extent that a Civil Servant being a
man of education and well standing in the community
he would be expected to take part. If a Civil Servant
stands off and feels that he should be given some
special benefit he will be left out. If they feel a sense
of purpose and dedication not only to the Government,
but to the community in which they live, then their
contribution to that community will be respected and
publicly acknowledged.

With regards to Senator Barrow's criticism
about the amount which it is proposed to spend on
the celebrations overseas, I would say that it was
welltaken; but whatever I small merit it may have had
has been completely dissipated by the effects of the
devaluation of the pound. As a result the amount to


be spent on celebrations in Canada and the U. S. A.
will certainly not go very far.

Senator Mapp made some plea to the Government
to take into account the plight of old age pensioners.
I do not know if I would have to remind Senator Mapp
that this Government has done more for old age
pensioners than any other Government has done.

SENATOR R. G. MAPP: Is Government respon-
sible for the fall of value in money during the years
which made it necessary to increase old age pensions?


SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
To get back to the Resolution I want to assure the
Senate that the Government in the future as in the past
will do everything it possibly can to ease the plight
of old age pensioners. I think that Senator Mapp can
take that from me as being accurate, and he can
broadcast it not only by word of mouth, but if he so
likes by printing it.


The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to.


RESOLUTION TO APPROVE SUGAR INDUSTRY
(REHABILITATION, PRICE STABILIZATION AND
LABOUR WELFARE) ORDER, 1967

The President called the seventh order A
Resolution to approve the Sugar Industry (Rehabil-
itation, Price Stabilisation and Labour Welfare)
Order, 1967.

SENATOR THE HONOURABLE H. A. VAUGHAN:
Mr. President, This is a Resolution which is pre-
sented to Parliament at this time of the year in re-
spect of sugar levies. All the information necessary,
except in one respect can be found on the Agenda and
I do not propose to repeat what is set out there.

There is only thing I would like to add and that
is with respect to doing away with the levy. The
Government therefore does not feel itself in a posi-
tion to take action along the lines requested by the
sugar producers federation. That does not mean that
the Government will not take such action while await-
ing the decision of the tripartite body.

I move, Sir, that the Resolution be concurred in.


Senator the Honourable P. M. Greaves seconded
the motion.


The question that the Resolution be concurred in
was put and agreed to.



ADJOURNMENT

On the motion of Senator the Honourable H. A.
Vaughan, seconded by Senator the Honourable P. M.
Greaves, the Senate adjourned at 5.50 p.m. sine die.






Statutory Instruments Supplement No. 23
Supplement to Official Gazette No. 31 dated 17th April, 1969


S.I. 1969 No. 65
The Customs Act, 1962 (1962-18)

NOTICE UNDER ITEM NO. 34 OF PART III OF THE
FIRST SCHEDULE TO THE CUSTOMS ACT, 1962
The Minister in exercise of the power conferred
on him by Item No. 34 of Part III of the First Schedule
to the Customs Act, 1962, hereby gives notice that the
General Assembly of the Church of God in Barbados,
hereinafter referred to as "the company", incorporated
by the General Assembly of the Church of God in Bar-
bados (Incorporation) Act, 1961 is approved by the
Minister as a company receiving and distributing
articles of clothing imported into Barbados and proved
to the satisfaction of the Comptroller to have been
sent to Barbados as bona fide gifts for distribution
to poor persons in Barbados by the company.
Given by the Minister this 10th day of April, 1969.

(Sgd.) P. M. GREAVES
Minister of Finance.







2 STATUTORY INSTRUMENT


S.I. 1969 No. 66

DIRECTIONS GIVEN BY THE COMMISSIONER OF
POLICE WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE MIN-
ISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS UNDER REGULA-
TION 58A OF THE MOTOR VEHICLES
AND ROAD TRAFFIC REGULATIONS,
1952
In these directions "traffic" means the passage
of vehicles of every description, pedestrians and all
animals being ridden, driven or led.
1. On Saturday, the 19th day of April, 1969,
between the hours of 2.00 p.m. and 6.00 p.m. and on
Sunday, the 20th day of April, 1969 between the hours
of 8.00 a.m. and 2.00 p.m. Bawdens Road in the parish
of Saint Andrew from its junction with Sedge Pond
Road to its junction with Swan Road in the said
parish and Swan Road from its junction with Bawdens
Road in the parish of Saint Andrew to its junction with
Turners Hall and Gregg Farm Roads in the said
parish shall be closed to all traffic except vehicles
bearing the appropriate identification mark issued by
the Barbados Rally Club.
2. All drivers and riders of vehicles, pedestrians
and drivers or riders of animals, shall comply with
these directions and with any order given by a member
of the Royal Barbados Police Force in uniform.
Dated this 26th day of March, 1969.

W. A. FARMER
Commissioner of Police.
Approved by the Minister of Home Affairs this
llth day of April, 1969.

P. M. GREAVES
Minister of Home Affairs







Supplement to Official Gazette dated 17th April, 1969



BARBADOS










I assent,
A. WINSTON SCOTT
Governor-General.
27th March, 1969.

1969 15

An Act to incorporate the Barbados Association
for Mentally Retarded Children.

(17th April, 1969) commencement
WHEREAS Stanley Keith Chapman, Stanley
Augustus Blanchette, Ilene Adorah Murray-Aynsley,
Hugh Geoffrey Lebens, Cecil Francis DeCaires,
Mary Ann Marshall, Thomas Nathaniel McKenzie,
Louis Albert Lynch, Marguerite Johnston, Samuel
Victor Ashby, Charles Trevor Ray, Harold Forde,
John Theodore Murray-Aynsley, John Nelson, Albert
Graham, George Hill and Phyllis Eileen Porter,
members of the Committee of Management of an
Association called "the Barbados Association
for Mentally Retarded Children" which Associa-
tion is in existence in this Island and the objects
of which are inter alia:








2 BARBADOS ASSOCIATION FOR MENTALLY RETARDED CHILDREN
ACT, 1969-15

(a) to investigate the problem of mental de-
ficiency in Barbados;

(b) to establish a Home for the care, mainte-
nance and welfare of mentally deficient
and educationally sub-normal persons in
the Island;

(c) to provide education, treatment, training
and rehabilitation for mentally deficient
and educationally sub-normal persons in
the Island;

have by their humble Petition to the Legislature
of this Island after stating that an Association
had been formed under the above name and setting
forth the aims and objects of the Association,
prayed that an Act may be passed incorporating
the Association;

AND WHEREAS it is deemed expedient to grant
the prayer of the said Petition;

BE IT THEREFORE ENACTED by the Queen's
Most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice
and consent of the Senate and the House of As-
sembly of Barbados, and by the authority of the
same as follows:-

Short title. 1. This Act may be cited as the Barbados As-
sociation for Mentally Retarded Children Act, 1968.

Incorporation 2. The present and future members of the Bar-
of the Barba. bados Association for Mentally Retarded Children
dos Associa-
tion for Men- shall be and they are hereby declared and adjudged
tally Retarded to be one body politic and corporate by the name
Children.








BARBADOS ASSOCIATION FOR MENTALLY RETARDED CHILDREN
ACT, '1969-15

of The Barbados Association for Mentally Retarded
Children and by that name shall have perpetual
succession and shall sue and be sued in all Courts
of law and equity and before all Magistrates and
others in all manner of suits actions and complaints
matters or causes whatsoever and shall have a
common seal and may alter and vary the same at
their pleasure and by the name aforesaid shall
be in law and in equity capable of acquiring and
holding all estate and property real and personal
as may at any time be acquired by or come to the
said Association in any manner whatsoever and
of selling and of disposing of the same from time
to time for the benefit of the Association and for
any of the purposes aforesaid to borrow at any
time or from time to time as occasion may require
any sum or sums of money necessary for carrying
into effect any of the objects aforesaid or for any
purpose which may be beneficial for furthering any
of the objects of the said Association and to give
such security by way of mortgage or otherwise for
effectuating any such loan and to execute and
deliver such deeds instruments or other documents
necessary or proper for effecting all or any of the
said objects.

3. All real and personal property of every kind Vesting of
and description and all choses in action which realnd pe
shall at the passing of this Act be vested inor pertyinthe
Associat ion.
standing in the name or names of any person or
persons whomsoever for the use of or in trust for
the Association for the purposes aforesaid, the
same shall forthwith and without conveyance,








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ACT, 1969-15


transfer or assignment vest in the Association for
the purposes aforesaid and in all actions, suits,
or proceedings in any Court of Law or Equity or
before any Magistrates or higher tribunal touching
or concerning any such property the same shall
be stated to be the property of the Association
without any further description.

Property of the 4. The funds as well as the real estate and
Association effects of the said Association shall be alone sub-
alone liable for
its debts. ject and liable to any charge and demands against
the Association and no subscriber to the funds
of the Association shall be liable for or charged
with the payment of any debt or demand from or
by the Association beyond the extent of the above-
said funds property and effects of the Association.

Powers of the 5. The said Association shall have full power
Association, and authority to make ordain establish and put into
execution any by-laws ordinances orders rules and
regulations for and concerning the nomination elec-
tion and suspension removal and expulsion of mem-
bers and officers, and the management collecting
and disposal of funds, moneys or estate and
property belonging to the said Association, for the
use of the common seal and for conducting and
regulating the business affairs and concerns of
the said Association and relative to any other
matter or thing whatsoever which may in anywise
concern the good management of the said Asso-
ciation and the same from time to time to change
repeal or vary as may seem proper:provided always
that no such by-laws ordinances orders rules and









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ACT, 1969-15


regulations be in anywise repugnant or contrary
to Her Majesty's Prerogative Royal or to the laws
of this Island and the same shall not in any manner
affect any other person or persons than those who
are or may become members of the said Associa-
tion.

6. All fines forfeitures and penalties incurred
by virtue of any by-law ordinance order rule or regu-
lation made ordained and established as aforesaid
and all sums of money becoming due to the said
Association from any of the members of the said
Association shall be sued for and recovered in
a summary way before any Magistrate on the com-
plaint of the Secretary or Treasurer of the Asso-
ciation and every Magistrate is hereby authorised
and required to take cognisance thereof accordingly
and all fines forfeitures and penalties when re-
ceived or the over-plus thereof after deducting
necessary charges shall be paid in to the Treasurer
of the said Association for the time being for the
use of the said Association.

7. Every dispute between any member or
members of the Association or any person claiming
through or under a member or under the rules of
the Association and any other member or members
of the Association shall be decided in the manner
directed by the rules of the Association and the
decisions so made shall be binding and conclusive
on all the parties provided the same be not con-
trary nor repugnant to the laws of this Island.


Fines to be
recovered in a
summary man-
ner.

















Disputes to be
decided as
directed by the
rules.












Saving rights of
the Crown.


BARBADOS ASSOCIATION FOR MENTALLY RETARDED CHILDREN
ACT, 1969-15


8. Nothing in this Act declared or expressed
shall affect the rights of Her Majesty Her heirs
and successors all bodies politic and corporate
and all others except such as are mentioned in
this Act and those claiming by from or under
them.

Read three times and passed the House of As-
sembly the third day of September, one thousand nine
hundred and sixty-eight.

THEODORE BRANCKER
Speaker.

Read three times and passed the Senate this 20th
day of March, one thousand nine hundred and sixty-nine.

E. S. ROBINSON
President.